Where can landlords pay £1.85pw to Nottingham Licensing?

by Mick Roberts

9:13 AM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

Where can landlords pay £1.85pw to Nottingham Licensing?

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Where can landlords pay £1.85pw to Nottingham Licensing?

Come on who’s telling you to write these letters below? A few tenants have asked Licensing for proof of where the Landlord can pay £1.85pw. We all know that’s codswallop and those landlords that talk to their tenants have told them the same.

I’m having to ask for a lot of rent increases as we speak. I’ve tried keeping their rents the same, but cost have surmounted too much now. They all know it’s because of Licensing.

I feel sorry for tenants that have been given their Section 21 due to Licensing. Imagine being made homeless when you’ve done nothing wrong. All from an immoral charge plucked from thin air from the Council.

For the first time in my 20 years as a landlord I’ve had to cancel a new kitchen this week I was doing for a tenant as there was no money left after paying Licensing fees.

Below is a photo of bathroom refurbishments we are just about finishing. This bathroom is a dream for someone on benefits believe it or not. Especially someone who has been ‘let off’ paying the proper rent for the last 4 years or so. Who now has to pay more – not because of the bathroom, but because of the Licensing fee. This bathroom would have been delayed had I started paying for Licensing fees. Loads of Landlords are saying they clamping down now on refurbs & do-ups & nice stuff for tenants etc.

What Landlords are asking is, they’ve come forward, paid the fees, but apparently Nottingham got only 3000 applications out of 33000. Landlords are saying there is no way you can come inspect their houses when you haven’t even got all the Landlords you need to get and we need to know your views on that? That is a question mark by the way. About 1025 of them not been answered and someone in the next few months is going to want to know why. We have to answer questions, but Licensing don’t. It seems they are above the rules.

We urge the Government to review the proposed scheme and the areas selected to ensure they do meet the Governments conditions for Selective Licensing before the scheme is allowed to commence.

Please Click Here to sign the petition.

Can you Landlords please sign this and forward to all your contacts.

A small hope we have, but it is worth trying anything and everything. The more Licensing & Govt start to see these things, who knows.

Mick



Comments

Monty Bodkin

10:28 AM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

£480 now Mick, what do you think they will charge in 5 years time when they renew this scheme?

I'll be selling up in anti-good landlord Nottingham by then, never to return.

Robert Mellors

10:40 AM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

Have you asked the Council if you can pay the licensing fee at the rate of £1.85 per week, as their letter does seem to indicate that this is what they are willing to do? If they are not willing to do this, then surely the Council is unlawfully misrepresenting the costs with the deliberate intention of misleading the public?

David Price

10:49 AM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

The council are deliberately misleading in their costings. Firstly there is no allowance made for voids, secondly no allowance for interest on the initial payment and thirdly no allowance made for the cost of collection.

reader

10:49 AM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

Fortunately at present I don't suffer from such schemes. But surely the true cost includes not only the fee but the costs of compliance including any 'gold plating' of national standards.

What is the real cost?

Dylan Morris

10:55 AM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

How much have does the Council charge to become an accredited landlord ?

Larry Sweeney

10:57 AM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

Mick. Everypoint you make is on the mark. There is no point engaging with these rotten authorities. The landlord organisations with the exception of property 118 are useless. Lets all stop our dues to them to start with. As regards the council id be more than happy to privately share some advise as to how to deal with these idiots. Very interested to note landlords in Nottingham are not even bothering registering.

Mick Roberts

11:48 AM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

Monty, £780 now if not accredited. And if u buy house to rent out, £780 from day one.
I reckon they gonna' try at least £1380 in 5 years time.
Peterborough was £50, I think they now £600 or some'at if someone wishes to correct me.
Rob, Yes we've asked & the tenants have asked if we can pay the £1.85pw & we won't put the tenants rents up. And the council haven't replied.
It looks like misleading the public, doesn't it.
David, yes no allowance for anything & the loss of interest very good point. Never mind the 2 hours per each application & the having to send the council your passport 36 times 'cause their web designer away in July, the time we have to do the applications. Telling 'em your wife's name THIRTY-SIX TIMES.
The real cost is gonna' be something like 2k per house.
The council are subject to none of these conditions. I've paid 3k for a flat to pass the electrical checks, yet the council flat next door not subject to the same checks I've had to do.
I have had some things changed, we need it to come more from tenants, if anyone can pass this onto their tenants
Yes Larry, if u have any idea's how to implement Rob's complaint above etc., let me know. I've started complaint with Ombudsman on time limits etc. Licensing my houses when no trouble, no complaints, no ASBO's on them roads-These are conditions that have to prevalent when bringing Licensing to a road. The council say 'Area'. How big is an area?
Today's post page 1 and 5
Licensing on the post website: https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/landlords-revolt-council-scheme-improve-1835826
And the Facebook post website.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2018041298228867&id=309833935716287
Tenants, if u don't start saying stuff, Nottm Council will increase this tax which will without a doubt impact on the rent u pay eventually. If u need Councillors emails to complain to, ask me.
Here's 2 for now:
jon.collins@nottinghamcity.gov.uk He the head honcho of council that supports this Licensing, thinks we're all Rogue Landlords.
CouJane Urquhart Jane.Urquhart@nottinghamcity.gov.uk
Some of u tenants who get on with Landlord and house is ok need to be on there supporting, as if Licensing think u not opposing this Licensing, they assume u not happy with Landlord and give him more costs which ultimately means tenant pays more which we don't want. More u penalise Landlord, harder it gets for tenant. Basic fundamental rule. Council don't understand that though. Instead of going after the 21% bad Landlords and tenants, they charge ALL the good 79% of landlords and tenants and use YOUR money to go after the bad ones. I'm saying that's wrong.
They don't listen to Landlords, but they will listen to u.
They driving Landlords out and not replacing em with council houses and u will suffer if u need some'at next year 10 years etc
Rents are rising out there cause of this and u need to protest.
And should u ever need to leave me in the future, Licensing are seriously restricting the choice out there. There is nothing.
It's only the tenants with bad Landlords are saying some'at cause they have some'at to moan about.
The tenants that have no problem don't normally say ote cause there is no need to. So please let em know u have no problem and this Licensing fee has to come from somewhere.
Those of u with me know you're safe with me, but they giving costs out that's gonna impact on u. And any damage you've done that I've let go, they gonna insist it gets fixed.
U need to say your defence of good landlords or everyone's life gets worse.
Those who's not in the Licensing area should still say some'at as if u don't, it could be your area next.
Don't let the council kid u. There is only one thing that ultimately pays for outgoings on a house AND THAT IS RENT. If u don't complain and protest, they could put this cost up to £2000 in 5 years time. And rents will have to rise to pay for it.
Newham council was the biggest council to bring Licensing 5 years ago & guess who 5 years later has the biggest homeless problem? Yes Newham.
http://www.selectivelicensingtruth.co.uk
Please forward this to all tenants and Landlords and put on your Facebook page.

Heather G.

12:18 PM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

We are about to complete on another property in Croydon whose authority to enforce borough-wide selective licensing expires in September 2020 so, when I buy a license for this new property in September this year, I will be paying for a 5 year license but only receiving 2 years of licensing. Their fee is £750 which would equate to £31.25 per week or £125 per month. Fortunately, we are bringing this property into the rental market so we get a discount and pay £350 which means a cost of £58.33 per month which has to come from somewhere! If we buy another one next September it will add £62.50 per month to our costs. Then in September 2020 we'll have to find another £700 to pay for the two properties (assuming that the cost stays the same). Why the fee is not pro-rata baffles me.

David Price

12:24 PM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Heather G. at 30/07/2018 - 12:18
The fee is not pro rata because they can get away with a flat fee.

Mick Roberts

12:29 PM, 30th July 2018
About 3 months ago

Heather, Yes shocking. That u we have to pay full price 5 year License for what may be 1 year using it. Someone somewhere has to do something about this. They making the laws up as they go along. Temporary income from one side of the council ignoring the Homeless outgoings increasing on the other side of the council.

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