How do I get the CCJ registered with the Registry Trust?

How do I get the CCJ registered with the Registry Trust?

12:06 PM, 30th December 2019, About 3 years ago 32

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We managed to evict a tenant after getting a CCJ, but the Court did not register it with the Registry Trust. We have discovered she is a serial offender with multiple CCJs, but none are registered so she can keep conning new landlords who will be unaware of her evictions or CCJs.

It is not worth us doing Enforcement as she has no car, savings or possessions of any value. I have written to the Camberwell and Shoreditch County Court, but they have not replied.

How do I get the CCJ registered with the Registry Trust?

Many thanks

Trevor

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Comments

John

10:30 AM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

I got eviction and money claim via Section 8. The Court has not registered the CCJ with the Registry Trust. I have written twice to the Camberwell and Shoreditch Country Court but they do not reply. The tenant is a serial offender and has no CCJ registered.
I have heard that the courts generally do not register a CCJ until Enforcement action is taken, but in our case we know the tenant has no possessions of any value so it is not really worth us doing Enforcement. How do w get her CCJ registered?
If we do proceed with Enforcement now and get no money can we do Enforcement again in a few years time (within the 6 year time period) by which time she may have savings or a full time PAYE job?

Monty Bodkin

10:37 AM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by John at 31/12/2019 - 10:30
“it is not really worth us doing Enforcement.“

You have a moral responsibility to enforce the judgment.

“How do w get her CCJ registered?“

Enforce the judgment;
https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/enforce-a-judgment

“If we do proceed with Enforcement now and get no money can we do Enforcement again in a few years time (within the 6 year time period) by which time she may have savings or a full time PAYE job?“

Yes.

David

11:19 AM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

These scum criminal tenants need to be stopped or at least publicly outed .I wonder if this amazing new government will as they say make the rental market a fairer place or more likely just fairer for crook tenants. Contact your MP and mention Robert Jenrick MP the housing minister.

David Lawrenson

11:44 AM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

Yes, it is extraordinary isn't it that unless you enforce the judgement, then it is not registered. I agree, it does not make sense, but that is how it works.

The key thing is to be very thorough in your tenant referencing processes, especially checking tenants financial situation, which for me means looking at at least 3 months of bank statement. And if you use a letting agent, then make sure your letting agent is doing this properly.

More on this at my various archives on the matter:
https://www.lettingfocus.com/blogs/tag/tenant-referencing/

Kind regards
David Lawrenson
Unbiased, independent landlord and property investor advice

Mike

12:47 PM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by David at 31/12/2019 - 11:19
yes indeed there should be a register for these scum tenants too, why not subject them to same fair treatment as scum landlords.

AJ

13:25 PM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

Every landlord should leave an honest review on this site for other landlords to see

http://www.landlordreferencing.co.uk/tenant-history-reports/

John

13:31 PM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

So it seems as if I have to do Enforcement now just to get the CCJ registered
What is the cheapest way of doing Enforcement ? I have no hope of getting any money from the tenant as she currently has no assets of any value. I will have to do enforcement again in 5 or 6 years time by which time she may have a full time PAYE job and some savings. I know she is now doing some "consultancy" work and getting over £5,000 per month but as this is not PAYE I guess the debt will not be taken from this by the court?

Richard Adams

13:51 PM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

John, if you KNOW for certain she is pulling circa £5000 a month then surely your priority is recovering what she owes you? Registering CCJ is secondary for you. If you instruct Debt Collection Bailiffs to collect and give them evidence of the £5k a month income they will do the job I'm sure. It is an earner for them after all. If all else fails dob her in to HMRC for non declaration and payment of tax which is likely the situation. Makes me wonder just what sort of consultancy service such a person can possibly offer and get paid for? Maybe she professes detailed advisory knowledge on how to become a scum tenant??!!

FOX30

14:15 PM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

What about if the former tenant owes £8,000.00, is there an avenue that I can take to recover this as well as register the CCJ ?

Richard Adams

14:32 PM, 31st December 2019, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by FOX30 at 31/12/2019 - 14:15
Fox30 yes there is an avenue to recover your £8000 owed. Contact Debt Collection Bailiffs. Costs only £60 to get them batting for you. You've cot copy of the CCJ so you are good to go. Prior to signing up though you need to tell them you have no address etc for your errant tenant. This is your Achilles heel although DCB do have a facility for finding addresses etc. If they cannot in your case then you are probably stuffed. Equally do you have reason to believe the tenant has the means (or assets like a decent value car which DCB can and will take away to sell) to at least pay something? If not forget it. If though you ended up receiving say £200 odd per month ongoing it would at least be something. Remember that if you believe the tenant has nothing now the CCJ is enforceable for recovery for 5 years I recall after its issue date. So if in the future he/she is working and earning properly say then DCB can swing into action then.

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