Fraudulent tenant application?

Fraudulent tenant application?

9:29 AM, 19th February 2018, About 6 years ago 10

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I think this may have been covered in the past regarding tenants and fraudulent applications. I have a current tenant who used a fake employers letter and fake previous landlady reference to secure the tenancy.

The tenants have also been in the Property nearly 2 months without making any rental payments!

Surely this is fraud as no attempt has been made to pay the rent and the documents supplied as a reference were fake?

Thank you for any help


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Neil Patterson

10:04 AM, 19th February 2018, About 6 years ago

I don't know at what level of seriousness the police would investigate fraud.

After 2 months though you are in section 8 territory, but I can almost guarantee these tenants are going to be trouble (more) so I would consider using the professionals. Please see >>

John Dace

11:19 AM, 19th February 2018, About 6 years ago

Its a criminal offence of deception. Contact Police and insist on they deal with it as such.


11:19 AM, 19th February 2018, About 6 years ago

You need some professional advice here my friend including the Police and local council if they're claiming any benefits. I had something similar a few years ago and managed to bluff them into vacating on the immediate threat of eviction and fraud prosecution. Put an informal case together threatening prosecution for fraud etc present it to them and hope they leave whilst simultaneously having a sec8 on every ground rumbling on as well...
Email Sajid Javid and see if he has any bright idea's to help with rouge tenants too.....!
Best of luck...

terry sullivan

12:38 PM, 19th February 2018, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Neil Patterson at 19/02/2018 - 10:04
i doubt police will be interested--not interested in much these days except hate speech


13:01 PM, 19th February 2018, About 6 years ago

Thanks guys,

I was thinking of making the police give me a CRN on a ticket and putting it through the door. Worth a try.
Otherwise like you said section 8 adding ground 17 which I can submit on 1st March about 10 days time


13:12 PM, 19th February 2018, About 6 years ago

Have you heard about the case Sharon Watts v Devon & Cornwall Police June 2014.
She served 2 years in prison for obtaining a tenancy using fake references and refusing to pay her rent.
So some police forces do prosecute


14:34 PM, 19th February 2018, About 6 years ago

Well said JohnCaversham, email Sajid Javid, and remind him we are not multinational companies that he is thinking of componsation payments as well and is his new proposals fair to landlords, not at all, yet we provide such an essential service without which there would be total housing crises.

I too have a rouge tenant, who constantly falls behind on rent and is now in 5th month running behind on rent, when I question him when he is going to pay up, he makes promises but never pays, and in the end when I told him I cannot wait any longer and will serve hima Notice, he almost challenged me to go ahead and said "Are You sure?" and went berserk slamming his room door in my face! can Sajid Javid deal with rouge tenants like him who literally scare you with after consequences of serving a Notice, threatening to take retaliatory measures, I tbh I am scared as he lives close to me and we always bump into one another, I feel scared for my wife hence why I haven't evicted him so far. In 2016 December he phoned his son to come over with another friend to bash someone, and they did, in my house, damaging my radiator, I was called early 3Am by another tenants who was scared out of her wits when this fight broke out, there was a bloody battle, a bottle had been used that must have missed its intended victim and landed straight into my wall mounted CH radiator damaging it really badly, so you could imagine what would have happened if that bottle landed into someone's head.


21:24 PM, 19th February 2018, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Neil Patterson at 19/02/2018 - 10:04
I had a very similar experience with a tenant who signed a 3 year lease on complete misrepresentation of her employment and rental history. When she was exposed (she had omitted to disclose she had been evicted from the unit next door to mine, had a judgement against her and was on benefits) I was advised to wait for her to violate the lease. She paid her rental for 2 years and 10 months but was a demanding and entitled tenant responsible for a litany of broken furnishings and fitments who refused entry to agents or insurance adjusters and has trashed my GBP500 000 unit. She deliberately withheld the last two months rental. A Section 8 was served and ignored. Two subsequent court dates were postponed by her claiming several defenses without submitting corroborating evidence but this lengthened her free stay in my property by a further 4 months. A final court date was held on the 15th February and she did not defend the case nor attend court. I have been awarded all outstanding rental and court costs but the tenant has been given a further 14 days to vacate. Only after that date can I appoint, at my cost, High Court Bailiffs to evict her should she ignore this order. And she will. I am told this could take a month if not longer. If I were to rely on Country Court Bailiffs the waiting period is presently anything up to 40 weeks. The tenant is a professional serial offender and is quite aware that, not only can she enjoy up to a year of free accommodation, but the strict data laws in the UK make it almost impossible to trace her history.
Any recourse you wish to follow will be for your account. I have learnt that there is no assistance from any other regulatory UK body and my chances of receiving any of the costs awarded to me are nil as the tenant is a benefits recipient. And a benefits cheat.
Welcome to being a landlord in the UK.
I would suggest that you contact Mr Lee Daniels of Helpland. I am presently using him to evict and hopefully chase the tenant for my damages. I have no relationship with this company at all -but as a non UK resident who felt completely isolated by UK authorities - I can attest to the fact that he has been a beacon of professional guidance.


18:13 PM, 20th February 2018, About 6 years ago

Make sure the council tax department are aware of the tenancy to save you issues further down the line.


18:33 PM, 20th February 2018, About 6 years ago

Thank you. This advice is pertinent to all landlords.
I received a letter of demand for council tax directed to me as the owner of the property last year. The tenant not only stopped paying rental in August, she has ignored all accounts for the past seven months. I responded with proof that the tenant is still in occupation and they have removed my name as the debtor and reinstated the tenant.

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