Tenant wants to exchange electric cooker with gas cooker?

Tenant wants to exchange electric cooker with gas cooker?

0:02 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago 40

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Hello, a tenant wants to exchange a (working) electric cooker with a gas cooker. She has says she will pay to have it installed and the necessary certification.

A couple of points, would it become her responsibility to maintain it (and replace if necessary) and also provide annual gas safety certification?

Grateful for any thoughts from the Property118 community,

Adrian


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John Mac

9:37 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

No it would be yours as the LL.

Marcus

10:04 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by John Mac at 20/07/2023 - 09:37
What if the tenant installed it without informing the landlord?

RoseD

10:05 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

Whilst I would agree with John I'd wonder what benefit this is for you and your property. Is this a fixed appliance? What impact will this cause to the property in terms of installation of said cooker (unless there's a gas coupling already in situ). Frankly you are already providing a perfectly acceptable safe facility fit for purpose and to replace it makes little sense.

Beaver

10:09 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

When you say a gas cooker, what kind of gas cooker? is it a traditional gas cooker with a gas hob on top or a gas cooker that's integrated into one of the units? And do you already have a gas supply pipe in situ? Also, what kind of boiler do you have? Is it a condensing gas boiler?

Niccolo Capanni

10:11 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

Citizens advice
"Your own appliances and installations
You're responsible for repairing any of your own appliances such as a washing machine, or anything that you had installed, such as a shower."

Shelter
"Repairs you are responsible for
You're responsible for:

fixing appliances or furniture you own'

https://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/gas-safety/renting-a-property/landlord-gas-responsibilities/
"Appliances owned by your tenants aren’t your direct responsibility - although it’s still up to you to ensure the safety of any connecting flues, unless they’re solely connected to the tenants’ appliance."

RoseD

10:11 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Marcus at 20/07/2023 - 10:04
Fair point altho this would surely be in contravention of tenancy agreement and they would responsible for removal and making good area on exit.

Kizzie

10:27 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by RoseD at 20/07/2023 - 10:11
Which would mean replacement of the original or new electric cooker

Judith Wordsworth

10:28 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

If the tenant is prepared to pay for the installation and future repairs to the cooker can’t see a problem.
You would be responsible for the Landlords Gas Safety Certificate.
If the tenant got the safety certificate it wouldn’t be a Landlord one likely a Homeowner’s one, even though they don’t own the property.

How old is your electric cooker?

John Mac

10:45 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Marcus at 20/07/2023 - 10:04
If the proverbial hit the fan & there was a prob with the appliance, the LL may have a defence in Court. It could come down to how long the appliance had been there & whether the LL would have been expected to know.

Reluctant Landlord

10:47 AM, 20th July 2023, About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Niccolo Capanni at 20/07/2023 - 10:11
repairs one thing...annual certification another?

Remember even if tenant fits and pays for installation of a gas cooker for example, you wont be able to evict if you don't have proof of a gas cert...

My take on this. Say no. LL has supplied a working cooking facility as detailed and agreed by all parties at the start of the tenancy. While the LL would be responsible for gas safety within a property, as they would neither own the gas cooker, nor have had any responsibility for its installation, they would be unable to fulfil their legal and statutory obligations to the latter of the law, so this request is reasonably refused. (you could also add a bit in about future EPC requirements about moving away from gas and so again you could not agree to this as this may fundamentally alter the property rating in the future and render the property unable to be let blah blah..)

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