Getting in the Ring – New Landlords Association

Getting in the Ring – New Landlords Association

11:38 AM, 8th October 2018, About 5 years ago 23

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The New National Landlords alliance, despite not being fully operational yet and awaiting the website build, has today got in to the ring to fight for landlords. See our tweet.

We have written to Chancellor Hammond with the following demands:

An amendment to sect 24 (we want it repealed) but decided to give them some wriggle room.

An immediate council tax holiday of 5 years to assist first time buyers, paid for by council efficiencies. It is simply wrong that Heads of councils earn more than the PM, paid for by tax payers – wrong, wrong, wrong.

Capital gains tax to be reduced and abolished where landlords sell to tenants. We pointed out to the Chancellor that a reduction would actually help the exchequer by increased revenue from more transactions.

We also pointed out to Chancellor Hammond that the PRS is not happy with this so called Conservative government, and Labour’s proposals for longer tenancies and rent controls are all we have left to fear. Perhaps not fear, as these proposals will finally wreck the market and eventually sanity must prevail.

Let us see if Central Government listen.

New Landlords association

To those who have pledged on this forum, but have not yet emailed us please email

Thank you to those who have contacted us and we will update you in due course.

Click Here to view the original article: New Landlord Association seeking pledges

Many thanks for your support


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Whiteskifreak Surrey

9:50 AM, 9th October 2018, About 5 years ago

Is it possible to see the full text of the letter to P Hammond? I am concerned about that 'wriggle room' for S24.
Also selling to tenants: Let's say the profit made is £60K which is not unusual in some part of the country. Selling to the tenant LL will have to share it, presumably 50/50? (I might be wrong, I did not see numbers and there is a different discussion here about that). This is gift of £30K to someone because they were renting your home. Seems a bit exorbitant to me. In a smaller profit - say 20K, if a couple is selling, the GCT will not be payable, because the allowance.
My initial, quick thoughts

Robert M

9:52 AM, 9th October 2018, About 5 years ago

How does a 5 year Council Tax holiday help landlords or tenants? I don't recall seeing this proposal in the previous posts asking for pledges, did I miss it, or is this something you have just decided to add in now?

Seething Landlord

12:08 PM, 9th October 2018, About 5 years ago

In terms of earnings, comparing the chief executive of a local authority with the Prime Minister is nonsensical. A better comparison would be with the chief executives of other multi-million pound businesses.


14:46 PM, 9th October 2018, About 5 years ago

Sounds good. keep up the good work Larry.

John Dace

9:58 AM, 10th October 2018, About 5 years ago

We have an image problem. Landlords are now thought of in similar terms to banks. In the banks case its all true. In our case due to the antics of a now sizeable minority - only some of it is true. We are the equivalent of a barking poodle with no teeth. Barking louder will have no effect whatever exept to get the occasional further kick - (probably a bit harder) We need to work on educating everyone about the good we do and the benefits we offer. We also need to kick the street fouling pit bulls amongst us into shape as it is they who are causing the problem. It seems the NLA/RLA etc are playing the long game. We should seek ways to get opinions and rules changed based on reasoned arguement and facts. At the moment - no-one wants to hear anything landlords have to say. We have to change that with a new approach and new image. Another minority offshoot of bolshy landords will be ignored like the others.

Gwen Davies

10:01 AM, 10th October 2018, About 5 years ago

I’ve emailed but not sure how to pay?

Larry Sweeney

12:34 PM, 10th October 2018, About 5 years ago

Thanks John. Have you emailed us yet. Apologies if you have. We are not going to be a minor offshoot. The Take up is astounding. Look at the readership figures of the original article. Taking the two weeks Approx 30k. Mark and Neil will confirm. As regards Bolshy, We do not care what they think of us. You are correct the other organisations are being ignored hence Sect 24, Licensing, Stupid rules re sect 21 and Epc, Stamp duty increases. I could go on . yes absolutely we will be Bolshy, we will push constructive ideas, but be most difficult an uncooperative when the occasion calls for this approach. Never forget it is our hard earned money, and our property so we do and will have a say on how our sector is run. On that point if we chose not to discriminate against hard working honest tax paying workers, Tough. No Government or LA can force us to take HB tenants and the sooner that point get over the better. I like the term Bolshy. It most certainly does not apply to the other organisations who have such lovely relations with the councils . Never forget it is our property, our cash, our investment and we will not be bullied and dictated to constantly. End of story

John Dace

17:12 PM, 10th October 2018, About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Larry Sweeney at 10/10/2018 - 12:34
Yes Larry, commited and emailed you a while ago. My comments were not intended to dampen enthusiasm for the cause. Its targeted / reasoned barking that will win through from a group able to market it wisely. (Like Shelter is good at). We need to be more like them and not like a BNP rally. In my experience landlords tend to shout and scream within thier own circles. Anyone looking in from outside might call us ‘Bolshy’. Really hoping your new outfit is cleverer about things.

Larry Sweeney

18:31 PM, 10th October 2018, About 5 years ago

Thanks John for your support. There will be chat area/ blog on our site and we want and need your input. Any advise strategy etc will be most helpful and it is that which will formulate policy and our approach. Unlike existing council friendly organisations i want us to listen. There is no point pushing an agenda which is not supported by the majority of our members. As i said your input is greatly appreciated , lets work together to get the numbers up. Apathy is my only worry but we are putting the big organisations to shame, with the response we are getting.

Whiteskifreak Surrey

19:15 PM, 10th October 2018, About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Whiteskifreak Surrey at 09/10/2018 - 09:50
Hi Larry,
I am very interested to join, but I am still awaiting your reply regarding a 'wriggle room' for hte Government re Section 24 / a text of your letter to Ph Hammond.
Thank you!

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