Getting in the Ring – New Landlords Association

by Larry Sweeney

11:38 AM, 8th October 2018
About 3 years ago

Getting in the Ring – New Landlords Association

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Getting in the Ring – New Landlords Association

The New National Landlords alliance, despite not being fully operational yet and awaiting the website build, has today got in to the ring to fight for landlords. See our tweet.

We have written to Chancellor Hammond with the following demands:

An amendment to sect 24 (we want it repealed) but decided to give them some wriggle room.

An immediate council tax holiday of 5 years to assist first time buyers, paid for by council efficiencies. It is simply wrong that Heads of councils earn more than the PM, paid for by tax payers – wrong, wrong, wrong.

Capital gains tax to be reduced and abolished where landlords sell to tenants. We pointed out to the Chancellor that a reduction would actually help the exchequer by increased revenue from more transactions.

We also pointed out to Chancellor Hammond that the PRS is not happy with this so called Conservative government, and Labour’s proposals for longer tenancies and rent controls are all we have left to fear. Perhaps not fear, as these proposals will finally wreck the market and eventually sanity must prevail.

Let us see if Central Government listen.

New Landlords association

To those who have pledged on this forum, but have not yet emailed us please email info@landlordsalliance.co.uk

Thank you to those who have contacted us and we will update you in due course.

Click Here to view the original article: New Landlord Association seeking pledges

Many thanks for your support

Larry

Comments

Steve Masters

21:59 PM, 11th October 2018
About 3 years ago

I just completed the straw pole for Dr Rosalind Beck and by coincidence one from uPad too.

Whilst Landlords, agents and property organisations understand the detrimental effect government policy is having on the rental market, it is tenants who have the government's ear.

We need to involve our tenants. We need to educate them, motivate them and survey them. Then we have statistics that will be listened too.

I shall test the water with my own tenants and get back to you.
And I will be looking for someone who can take this idea and run with it.

I'm a one man band full time landlord and I am overrun by the ever increasing bureaucracy but I can't afford to sit back and let my industry be ruined.

Whiteskifreak Surrey

22:54 PM, 11th October 2018
About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Steve Masters at 11/10/2018 - 21:59
I have been suggesting that numerous times since I joined this forum and commented on Section 24. When making a rent increase last year we have written a letter to all tenants, showing them a disaster waiting to happen, explaining what happened and encouraging them to write to their MPs (gining their email addresses and details). I am not sure if anyone did actually bother. Apathy is not only among LLs, it is also among the tenants.

CrocadileBoy

8:38 AM, 13th October 2018
About 3 years ago

The priorities should be scrapping S24, making it quicker to go through courts to remove non paying tenants, and trying to stop councils seeking extortionate licensing fees.
Giving a council tax holiday to first time buyers? That is no use to us at all and something Shelter would propose, paid for by taxing everyone. Instead how about reducing the council tax rates for landlords when their properties are empty, seeing as they use facilities?
If the landlords alliance is to succeed it needs to promote issues for landlords that ultimately end up costing the tenant.

tired

9:33 AM, 13th October 2018
About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by CrocadileBoy at 13/10/2018 - 08:38
"The priorities should be scrapping S24". S24 is good for unencumbered and incorporated landlords wanting to reduce competition.

Annie Landlord

10:09 AM, 13th October 2018
About 3 years ago

I was really interested in the new alliance. We really need to find a way of uniting and showing the public that we are not money grabbing, DSS hating, just plain nasty people. Unfortunately I haven't found the tone of the first few tweets helpful and was particularly concerned at the first one, which called for the cessation of foreign aid. This was supposed to be a national alliance, with agreed aims and methods, not a personal political bandwagon. So at the moment I don't feel its something I feel able to join

Seething Landlord

20:17 PM, 13th October 2018
About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Larry Sweeney at 10/10/2018 - 12:34"No Government or LA can force us to take HB tenants and the sooner that point get over the better. I like the term Bolshy. It most certainly does not apply to the other organisations who have such lovely relations with the councils . Never forget it is our property, our cash, our investment and we will not be bullied and dictated to constantly. End of story"
This might go down well in the pub but if you think there's a limit to what Government can do if they put their mind to it you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Shouting and ranting at them will have no effect whatever. I predict that the reply to your letter will say something that could be summarised as "thank you for taking the trouble to write. Your views are noted and will be carefully considered by the Chancellor." End of story, to adopt your phrase.

Seething Landlord

20:32 PM, 13th October 2018
About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by tired at 13/10/2018 - 09:33
Exactly. One man's meat is another man's poison. The problem is that we all assume that other landlords have the same points of view and priorities as us, but they don't.

Mark Shine

22:30 PM, 13th October 2018
About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Seething Landlord at 13/10/2018 - 20:32
Absolutely. I’ve always thought although it is possible that the effects of S24 may benefit *some* renter FTBs, whilst simultaneously adversely affecting many more renters due to less supply and ultimately upward pressure on rental levels... S24 of course creates an exceptionally unlevel ‘playing field’ between incorporated or unencumbered LLs and leveraged ones.

Therefore it’s not just the large incorporated LL players that stand to benefit, but there’s also probably a sizeable proportion of small LLs who would not welcome the removal of S24 from a business POV?

Mark Shine

22:51 PM, 13th October 2018
About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Annie Landlord at 13/10/2018 - 10:09
Sorry, but I have to agree with Annie. I grew up in various developing countries due to my Dad who spent his entire career working in Foreign Aid trying to help those infinitely less fortunate than pretty much everyone in 🇬🇧

tired

9:55 AM, 14th October 2018
About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Mark Shine at 13/10/2018 - 22:30
I should've included low income LLs with one or two properties along with the incorporated or unencumbered LLs as they won't hit financially with more tax but will benefit from the effects.

What proportion of the NLA/RLA are made up by these LLs? I have no idea but if over 50% then the majority of their members are better off. It puts them in a difficult position if that is the case as vigorously campaigning for it's removal will make the majority of its members worse off. Pure conjecture of course but not surprising as new body has formed if this is the case.

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