Who pays what? I’m out of pocket!

Who pays what? I’m out of pocket!

9:15 AM, 19th June 2020, About 4 years ago 4

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I have a long standing Housing Benefits tenant who I always have had direct payment for as there is a history of drink, drugs and spells in HMP. I received direct payment (by HB ) as normal and expected for period 13 April- 19th May.

When the rent was not forthcoming for 11 May – 19 June period I call tenant. He has just come out of prison, and was told he had to full in a UC claim. He did so then got the first lot of money sent direct to him (for rent 16 April – 15 May). He pays the bills then blows the rest. I explain that part of that was for actual rent. No response!

I immediately go on line to fill in a new style UC47 for direct payments. I get a call back from DWP this is all arranged so next payment 16 May – 15 June will be paid on 2 July as this is his BAP period.

What happens to the rent due for the period 11 May – 16 May?

Do I try and get a third party deduction from DWP even though its not two months worth of arrears (and unlikely now as I get direct payments anyway)?

Will HB tray to make me pay back his last rent payment to me as the DWP have clearly paid again (to him) for the same period?

Why do I have to wait till the BAP payment date of 2nd July for rent period 16 May – 15 June?

I Tried to call new third party payments line direct, but it purposely cuts you off.


Reluctant Landlord

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12:35 PM, 19th June 2020, About 4 years ago

5 days rent loss is peanuts compared to losses for not being able to evict a non paying tenant for months. Think yourself lucky you are getting any rent

Paul landlord

18:59 PM, 19th June 2020, About 4 years ago

With respect i have to say 'you serious??'

5 days missing rent?

In all honesty as a landlord having been in the game for 30 years with a few dozen properties I have to say 'if 5 days missing rent is all you got to worry about you onto a good number. '

Anne Nixon

19:43 PM, 19th June 2020, About 4 years ago

Reply to the comment left by paul landlord at 19/06/2020 - 18:59I have accepted a UC tenant just once and that will be the last. He stayed 10 weeks and despite applying for a direct payment after 8 weeks, then again at 9 weeks, then again at 10 weeks I received no rent at all. After 10 weeks he did a moonlight and the DWP informed me they would not be paying the arrears as he was no longer at my property?? The DWP are the worst, the very worst, most shambolic organisation I have every had the misfortune to deal with. This was in February 20 so COVID-19 was not an issue then. I'm still waiting for a response to my formal complaint . . . . .

Mick Roberts

8:15 AM, 20th June 2020, About 4 years ago

Your dates are a little confusing, so can't work out for u.
But yes go for the Third party deductions, that's what it's there for. Don't expect to hear anything though, they veiled in a cloud of secrecy. And when u do get some amount in the bank, u have no clue who for or for what date periods. Third Party Deductions are done by external contractor who are surprisingly thicker than UC.
HB won't come after u if they paid tenant.
These exact scenarios now, I've been having email spat with Neil Couling, direct of UC as to why people aren't taking UC. This is clear example.
Annie, DWP UC are the thickest u could ever talk to. Even HB cannot get through to them. A UC Fraudster claimed UC in one of my genuine HB tenants names last few weeks & HB could not solve it all, even though HB could clearly see she was getting all benefits entitled to. The UC Stop process over-ruled everything they tried to do.

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