paul landlord

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paul landlord

13:52 PM, 28th February 2020
About a month ago

Fuseboard Confusion!

And yes in light of the finalising of legislation in the rental sector i have suspended any of my planned board changes.

In 2022 AFDD devices are expected to be mandatory at huge expense on new boards. It would be a complete waste of time changing them now only to have to be done again in 2 years.

And by the way its not electricians interpretation that counts at the momrnt we speak the language of the British Standard BD7671... Read More

paul landlord

13:24 PM, 28th February 2020
About a month ago

Fuseboard Confusion!

Reply to the comment left by Monty Bodkin at 28/02/2020 - 13:05
As in the same discussion last week we as electricians and inspectors know already how the regulations are applied and coded- as already stated. But when you read the badly written forthcoming landlord regulation on EICRs then it may be we are charged with reporting to two standards based on whether its owner occupied or rented.

If C3s which grant a pass are to be made a mandatory change for let properties then as I said last week we as landlords got a serious problem. You will have read the frequency of regulation change in my post above. We'll spend all our time chasing round our portfolios at great time and expense upgrading the electrics. It will be non stop. Lets hope commonsense prevails... Read More

paul landlord

12:46 PM, 28th February 2020
About a month ago

Fuseboard Confusion!

The comment 'Graham Landlord' made above is entirely correct. NO ARGUMENT. It is a 'pass' in (layman's terms) and there is no requirement at all to change it.

Bottom line is that your EICR will throw it up as a C3 fault comment (if your sparks knows his business) which means it is 'satisfactory for continued use' but a recommend improvement has been made.

C3s are thrown up all the time as the regs change all the time:-

2008 BS7671 17th edition
2011 Amm1
2013 Amm2
2015 Amm3
2018 BS7671 18th edition
Few weeks ago amm1 came out
2022 amm2 scheduled for release.

Im an registered electrician as well as a landlord and inspection, testing and reporting on installations is my job.

As a general rule any new regulations are not retrospective. As long as the installation was installed to the regulations of the day and its safety and integrity has not been impaired since, then any non compliance with the latest regs is a C3- not to the standard of today.

If you want to change it then good for you on your safety considerations but nobody can fail it.

And as for the rubbish of it depending on where its located- under stairs etc- then thats all it is rubbish.

If you read BS7671 2008:AMM 3 2015 which is where fireproof boards were made a requirement there is no mention of this at all. Well intentioned people are giving totally misleading information that is costing money and grief to many.

And for the record the 18th edition of BS7671 released in 2018 makes no further mention of the position either.

This was discussed and definitively sorted in a similar post last week at great length.

Not a bad idea to change it but not a requirement.

Hope this helps.... Read More

paul landlord

14:07 PM, 11th February 2020
About 2 months ago

Combustible Electrical consumer unit

Reply to the comment left by Michael Barnes at 11/02/2020 - 00:46
Yes I remember that fiasco and I have to confess my naievty in crediting our governments with actually having a clue in whatever they do.
Lets just hope the status quo remains in terms of dealing with fault codings otherwise there are going to be a lot of out of pocket landlords and a lot of busy electricians driving Porsches instead of vans!

Ridiculous state of affairs- but isn't it always the case when they play games with landlord and tenant stuff?... Read More

paul landlord

17:00 PM, 10th February 2020
About 2 months ago

Combustible Electrical consumer unit

Reply to the comment left by Michael Barnes at 09/02/2020 - 18:56
I have previously read that article and assumed that the powers that be are not so stupid as to expect a C3 to be a part of remedial action or recommendations they speak of that appear on the EICRs. Otherwise we'll all be doing nothing else than constantly running around our properties changing the installations everytime they change the regs- and the reg changes are changing every couple of years or so at the moment. 2008 17th edition 2011 amm1, 2013 amm2, 2015 amm3, 2018 18th edition, 2020 amm1 just come in and amm2 planned for 2022.

However my assumption on their lack of stupidity could be an overassumption of course!

And if so we'll need about 5x the amount of sparks we have now to keep up and I'll be making it rich with the laws of supply and demand on my sparks business whilst the supply plays catch up!!

They're not that stupid..... are they??... Read More