Where is the landlords’ voice?

Where is the landlords’ voice?

0:06 AM, 20th January 2023, About A year ago 14

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Hi all, I have been listening to many reports on the news and most recently a representative of Shelter on Rip Off Britain.

Whilst I fully agree some properties are in a bad state of disrepair and mould, however the majority of landlords keep there properties in EXCELLENT condition.

Where is the landlords’ voice?

Why does the media not ask landlords what the biggest cause of the mould is?

Why are organisations not standing up for landlords/landladies?

I sit there shouting at the tv when I hear the **** that comes from some organisations, as they clearly do not do their investigations by visiting PRS properties as they would be shocked to see that 95% of the mould is caused by the lack of ventilation, tenants blocking air vents, not using extractors, opening windows etc.

Who do the PRS and Agents contact to give our views, experience and knowledge too?

Thank you,


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Chris H

11:41 AM, 20th January 2023, About A year ago

While I like all of LL are sorry to hear about that young child dying from mould related sickness.
The fact that it was social housing is being swept under the rug, they are preparing to make private landlord liable for all mould, not social or clowncil housing.... double standard at it's best as per normal

dismayed landlord

12:00 PM, 20th January 2023, About A year ago

We do not have one. Every now and then a good inspirational idea is put forward. Tragically even our own group of landlords will shoot the idea to pieces.
We should be like all these groups going on strike. Even if we cannot fully agree with the strike action at least the employees back it.
Because nothing will ever fit all the problems. There is no panacea.
But if we do sweet FA then the business us smaller landlords are in will be destroyed.
It’s not particularly a huge problem as the only real casualties are tenants.
I am just sick and tired of being labelled the reason behind all the heart ache and stress tenants are and will continue to subjected to.
Reap what you sow!

The Forever Tenant

12:15 PM, 20th January 2023, About A year ago

It's a tough one to crack. It really is.

I think that part of the issue may be that often the items that landlords want recognition about (Providing decent housing, gas safety checks, etc) are the minimum that is expected of them.

The status quo isn't interesting to the public. What there needs to be are stories about landlords who have done something beyond what is expected to help their tenants.


18:50 PM, 20th January 2023, About A year ago

Reply to the comment left by The Forever Tenant at 20/01/2023 - 12:15
Hi souls....I have been arguing here that LLs need to associate in a Trade Union Style... with a strong legal team to act on behalf of all member.

All together LLs can create "an agglomerated" umbrella to act for us....as opposed to "conglomerate" organisation but with the same effect and power to put a gigantic defence/fight. i HAVE NOT DOUBT LLs can afford to do that.

At the moment we are all firefighting, complaining and paying for them to attack us like criminals.

The situation becoming very toxic, costly and putting good LLs off....this is not going to make the PRS any help to improve... all side are blaming the LLs as the causers of the problem.

An Unionised agglomerated Umbrella would have the muscle to defend, and propose sound solution to authority. Proposal coming from a qualified legal team might be taken more seriously... NRLA would be ideal IF THE ORGANISATION INCORPORATE A STRONG LEGAL TEAM WITHIN AND STOP TRY TO INFLUENCE THE AUTHORITY & OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WITH MUSIC ARGUMENTS.


19:37 PM, 20th January 2023, About A year ago

Late last year, Paul Shamplina did a feature for ITV News to show evictions from both sides of the coin. What was broadcast showed matters only from the tenants stance - the landlords viewpoint was completely missing.

The PRS is seen as the modern day Rachman and there's no interest in changing that narrative.

10:20 AM, 21st January 2023, About A year ago

Reply to the comment left by C CA at 20/01/2023 - 18:50
We are working diligently to create that voice! Not in a unionized way but definitely in a way where the voices of our members are heard as a collective. We would benefit greatly from having people such as yourself contribute your thoughts and ideas.

I am not trying to recruit new members in responding to this post, but am trying to highlight that there is a professional body working to create positive change.


11:19 AM, 21st January 2023, About A year ago

I brought a house from auction in Oct 2022 with a sit in DSS tenant, the house has improvement notice against the pervious owner and tenant also has 14 months rent arrears. I have served section 3,48 and section 8. Section 21 can not be served due to improvement notice.

Tenant said he will never pay a penny, refuse to sign new contract with the new landlord, refuse to give out his email, refuse anyone to visit the house, not even allow contractor to attend and he has new gf and kids in the house, isn’t it breach of contract?

3 investor brought this house less than one year and sold it out straight away. Asa landlord you will need to pay to fix the house, tenant will not pay rent ( rent arrear is £5550) and rent was only 370 for a two bed house but market period is 900 pounds. He refuse to pay market price as he is on benefit so he told me he won’t need to pay anything but it will cost me a fortune to kick him out.

Why the law is protecting them?
For my situation, I never turn on heating during winter for saving money, I even walk 1 and half hour to work every day for saving little travel money. Why landlords need to suffer to pay so much for them? He is a 50 years old man and never worked and I m a 30s years woman also need to take care of my retired mum too. This is so unfair! I want the press / newspaper to know !


12:21 PM, 21st January 2023, About A year ago

Reply to the comment left by C CA at 20/01/2023 - 18:50
And where and what exactly is the NRLA doing to effectively represent landlords? They now have 100,000 members but won’t even promote the latest effort to challenge Sec 24.
Whether or not it is winnable, is not the point, supporting it shows that LLs are fighting back.
Fighting our corner is something the NRLA doesn’t do anywhere near effectively enough.


13:41 PM, 21st January 2023, About A year ago

Reply to the comment left by Michelle - Association of Professional Property Investors at 21/01/2023 - 10:20
Great to hear that....I used the word "Trade Union Style" (TU) but I don't mean to copy TU platform. Obviously TU operate as employees under different regulation.

My thinking is a professional association which contribute for improvement and protect the sector from injustice. This means standing with Carrot and Stick and ready for being bullied by working within the legal boundary despite of unfair regulation . Policy makers must treat good LLs positively and NO as exploiters or see our business as a charity of their own.


13:44 PM, 21st January 2023, About A year ago

What the NRLA don't make a big song and dance about out of the 2 million landlords they should state that their memberships LLs have a average of say 5 properties.

Of the NRLA members I know personally we all have between 5-10 properties so if the average is 5. Then NRLA LLs own half million properties (which say house 4 people each per property). That means 2 million people in NRLA member properties which is a significant chunk of the market but do they leverage this information/ strength/ dominance in the market? They need to act like LL union not a passive bystander.

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