UPVC window in a Listed building/G2?

UPVC window in a Listed building/G2?

0:03 AM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago 25

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Hello, Has anyone had any joy in getting an LA to give the thumbs up for permission to replace a wooden sash window with a UPVC (single or double glazed) window that replicates what the original looked like from the outside in a Grade II listed building?

I was going to go to town and focus on the enviro/cost saving benefits to the occupier (benefit tenant) plus a direct move to help towards the long term enviro gov goal which includes positive moves towards the EPC standard raising etc….

Has anyone got any other nuggets to throw in that might help swing it?

I am of the opinion the more I put in the application then if refused, the more reason they have to give if refused.

I’ve already approached them to ask if they have updated their CAA Conservation Area Plan since the last one in 2007 and they have said no, plus they have no Conservation Officer AND they can’t provide any further free advice unless I fill in and pay £100 for pre-application (and that’s BEFORE I fill in a free Listed Building Consent form!)


Thank you,

Reluctant Landlord

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10:13 AM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

Why would you want to put UPVC windows in a listed building - sounds like vandalism - offer to have timber replacements, you may have more luck there, no borough (in London) I know of allows replacement of any kind unless they can't be repaired, and then it is a strict like for like.

Julie Dawson

10:21 AM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

I did in a conservation area but in the North East ... possibly different up here ! But I took a sample in, they were from a company called Synseal. Good luck

Allan from Wales

10:28 AM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

Reply to the comment left by Elizabeth Bax at 01/02/2023 - 10:13
How about internal secondary glazing that matches the existing pattern and therefore doesn’t change the external appearance. Might be worth a try.

Chris Rattew

10:38 AM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

At our home, where we let rooms, we are making plans. It seems easier to retain the outside windows as they are and fit double-glazed units inside them, as the outer ones would be hard to replicate in PVC, and are nearly 100 years old.

John P

10:41 AM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

My experience was resistance to any double glazing in a listed building (due to character of glass and double reflections), but double glazing was OK for a non-listed building within the conservation area.

You can get double glazed in timber frames or even composite, which might be worth it for a quality building.

Might be worth paying the £100 to save wasting a lot of time on something they won't approve.


11:14 AM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

We live under the regime of Uttlesford DC and in a thatched Grade ll cottage in a conservation area. UDC reluctantly allowed timber with slimline Double Glazing, but only in the more recent extension (50 years old). In the very old part (1600) we have timber replacement with secondary DG.

ListedBuilding. org

11:42 AM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

Had some success in Enfield with timber double glazed windows from https://timberwindowsdoors.co.uk/heritage-glass/

Paul Charlton

13:03 PM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

I have argued for looks-like for looks-like rather than like for like with intermittant success in my own area. I live in a National Park. No one gets told they have to paint buldings with Victorain paint formulations so why insist on retaining the wood thats underneath it?


20:08 PM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

Personally speaking - I’ve always disliked plastic windows. They stand out like a sore thumb and ruin the look of old buildings!

Reluctant Landlord

21:37 PM, 1st February 2023, About A year ago

Reply to the comment left by LaLo at 01/02/2023 - 20:08
agreed...but...they are a lot cheaper than timber made to measure, easier on maintenance and if they look the same they are hardly that visually offensive.

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