Shelter again with latest TV advert!

Shelter again with latest TV advert!

9:17 AM, 30th March 2020, About 2 years ago 85

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I think the latest TV advert for Shelter is disgusting. Once again giving the impression that they provide housing and once again having a pop at landlords.

This time saying a tenant had called and said their landlord had asked them to leave the property in case they got Corona Virus. They really do make me sick.

We are fighting here to keep the country with a roof over their heads and they are spending out on advertising to keep their militant anti-landlord propaganda machine running, because the donations from B & Q and M & S are drying up.



by Jireh Homes

19:05 PM, 1st April 2020, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Marie at 01/04/2020 - 18:31
Marie - had the advert by Shelter been honest in describing the doctor as a lodger this thread would not have been created. It is the manipulation of the facts which is the gripe.

by paul robinson

19:22 PM, 1st April 2020, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Marie at 01/04/2020 - 18:31
As a decent landlord and along with majority we do follow the letter of the law, treat our tenants well and have a mutual beneficial arrangement.

We therefore do not worry about shelter offering legit advice to tenants, in fact we welcome that to help those tenants fight against dodgy landlords who sadly give the PRS a bad name and create mistrust between landlord and tenant relationship.

We do however take issue with Shelters approach and champagnes as they also harm the PRS and create a negative affect on the mutual beneficial relations between decent landlord and decent tenant.

Their campaigns are very negative towards the whole of the PRS and so likely viewed that way by the Gen population including sadly a lot of renters in the PRS. Breeding mistrust and resentment where there is no reason to be any.

This latest TV is clearly an example of this – they should have made it clear the NHS worked was a lodger in the owner occupiers home and NOT a more formal and very different Landlord & Tenant scenario, which in reality I suspects includes 99% of the PRS.

by paul robinson

19:29 PM, 1st April 2020, About 2 years ago

I've contacted the NRLA to see what they are going to do about it - after investigations and confirmation, if a lodger in an owner occupiers house, they need to take Shelter to hand, or provide correct information to various media sources to squash the mistrust and fear that Shelter are creating in an already unprecedented crisis!

Welcome all landlords who are members of the RLA or NLA to contact NRLA.

by Monty Bodkin

19:34 PM, 1st April 2020, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Jireh Homes at 01/04/2020 - 19:05Just to make it very clear (although I'm sure Marie fully knows);
Like the vast majority, we are not lodger landlords here and our tenants are not lodgers.
But it is good landlords and ultimately their tenants who pay for this multi million pound industry.

by Gromit

20:06 PM, 1st April 2020, About 2 years ago

What Shelter is doing is driving out directly and indirectly decent law abiding Landlords which will leave...........rogue Landlords.
Rogue Landlords do not give a flying f**k about Tenants, Tenants rights, the Law or what Shelter/Generation Rent/ et al say.
None of which is beneficial to Tenants.
#Shelter #RogueCharities

by Monty Bodkin

20:31 PM, 1st April 2020, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Gromit at 01/04/2020 - 20:06"IF THIS IS WHAT SHELTER WANTS"
(but the cracking salaries might help a bit)

by Chris Byways

21:00 PM, 1st April 2020, About 2 years ago

Shelter has two aims.
1. Raise cash for their grossly overpaid execs.
2. P#ss off Landlords.

1) is self serving grandisement.
2) hardens attitudes, causes conflict and hurts the hard to home hardest. Surely even they feel guilty at this? Seems not to me.

by Chris @ Possession Friend

21:11 PM, 1st April 2020, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Jireh Homes at 01/04/2020 - 19:05
" Shelter, - honest advertising," that made me laugh 😉

by steve p

1:38 AM, 2nd April 2020, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Marie at 01/04/2020 - 18:31
Im sorry I dont know about cab but I know for a fact council offices are open and council housing officers are working from home and so have more time to answer calls and emails.. I have called my council 3 times for advice in last couple of weeks and got straight through to someone.

The issue people have with this advert is Shelter have muddied the ast and lodger which is different laws and different rights.

Just look at this youtube shelter advert.. Basically at the start they are saying the landlord is a child abuser. I know they are trying to dramatise it to get money but its an appauling advert..

by Ken Smith

10:50 AM, 2nd April 2020, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Monty Bodkin at 01/04/2020 - 20:31Hi Monty,
I wonder if you recall us 'jousting' on here a couple of years ago when I sold up a large amount of (all) properties. I decided to cash my chips and walk away from a roulette table that was set-up to crucify landlords.
You considered me crazy and refuted all my warnings - to the point of insulting me.
Fast forward 2 years - even I couldnt have foreseen this scenario. Landlords thrown under the bus one more time. It appears you are still at the roulette table?
I'm still involved to a small extent as I agreed to keep an eye (manage) my brothers BTL nearby. Fortunately, he has 2 NHS doctors in it - and a solid guarantor too. So it couldnt be better for him actually.
I do recall a thread here in 2018 where I stated how essential guarantors had been in my model. I'm staggered how many landlords still dont insist on one. Letting agents will always talk landlords out of guarantors. Could this be because it's harder for them to find tenants if a guarantor is a pre-requisite? Then again, that would suggest that letting agents wouldnt be acting in their clients best interests. I mean, as if that would ever happen?
I still pop on here from time to time - just to reassure myself I did the best thing ever 2 years ago. I never leave here without realising that I didnt just dodge a bullet - I dodge a barrage of bombs.

The other odd thing is that, regarding landlords on cheap interest deals, what has happened to all your massive profits over the years since the 'crunch'. It appears here as if many just 'live for the day' with monthly rental income - and have a fingers crossed policy. Surely anyone can see that this is not very wise when you have the establishment hunting you down anyway?

I'm just wondering Monty if you now feel I still made a big mistake in exiting this crazy industry?

It's never to late to start the process of cashing-in your chips.

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