Landlord Haters wanted Pet deposits banned – Now they wish to reverse that decision

Landlord Haters wanted Pet deposits banned – Now they wish to reverse that decision

13:34 PM, 2nd September 2021, About 3 years ago 18

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This shows how backwards and imbecilic this Government, Generation Rent and Shelter are. They called for the banning of an extra £100 to £200 deposit etc. for tenants with pets, so the government banned Landlords from charging an extra deposit for pets.

Now they want us to charge extra again, as tenants with pets are struggling to get homes. We told ’em this would happen.

Unbelievable! – Wasn’t this how we used to do it till the Govt & Generation Rent wrecked it for renters?

“They are calling for the legislation, which is the main barrier to solving the ‘lets with pets’ challenge, to be amended to enable agents and landlords to either charge tenants a pet deposit or require a tenant to take out specialist insurance.

“New data in a report being published today, ‘Heads for Tails by pet charity AdvoCATS, finds that almost one in five landlords who previously allowed pets in rented accommodation have stopped doing so since the passage of the Tenant Fees Act in 2019.

This is because, as the report explains, “the Act effectively prohibits landlords from asking for pet damage insurance and it fails to include a separate pet deposit as part of its list of permitted payments”.

My repeated notes on this:

Gees, how simple was it when we could just charge higher deposit and those that did no damage got all money back. So so simple.
No better insurance than the tenants own money.
Now look what Shelter and Generation Rent and the Govt have done. They have made it MUCH MUCH worse for tenants yet again.

My text below I’ve done before:

Landlords: pets are okay if you pay for extra insurance to cover any damage.
Gov: in that case we will make it illegal to charge extra insurance.
LLs: well then we will have to slightly increase deposits for those with pets.
Gov: in that case we will cap deposits at 5 weeks rent.
LLs: okay well we can’t really allow pets anymore then.
Gov: in that case we will force you to take tenants with pets.
LLs: well then we have no choice but to increase rent across the board even for tenants without pets.
Gov: oh.
Tenants: why is rent so high??

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Paul B

10:42 AM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

I recently tuned down a tenant who offered an extra £50 per month over the asking rent to keep a large dog in a small bungalow with a tiny garden. I did once relent on allowing a pet cat some years ago but regretted it when they moved out and swore never again. Animals gotta do what animals gotta do and they usually do it in the garden, and not infrequently in the house too.


10:42 AM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

One small step for GR and Shelter, one giant leap for landlords. Next GR and Shelter need to campaign for the repeal of the Tenant Fees Act, to be replaced by something more balanced and the complete removal of section 24.
What a pity it is that GR and Shelter cannot work with landlords rather than in isolation and opposition. Together we could all succeed, separately we will all fail.

Michael Johnson - Amzac Estates

10:49 AM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

I am in total agreement with you Mick. Fortunately here is Wales the tenant fees act was slightly amended with no cap on deposits and we are allowed to charge some fees as long as they are clearly stated before the tenancy agreement starts.
However rents are increasing again through lack of supply so I can only conclude that this constant attack on the private rental sector ends up hurting the very people they are trying to protect.
However it really doesn’t look like this onslaught is going to let up any time soon and I think that this can only be to squeeze out the small landlords and up with large corporates controlling the market which cannot be good news in the long term for anyone other than them which I guess is this government’s ultimate plan.
After all the rest of our infrastructure is owned by foreign investors so why should housing be any different?

terry sullivan

10:50 AM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

shelter is political--it should not have charity status

Peter Gulline

11:20 AM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

Same here in scotland with the new PRT which we all have to use. Rents have rocketed as we only get a 28 day lease which rolls month to month. Not able to plan or advertise in advance anymore. No commitment from tenants and many use it as a way to get 2 or 3 months leaving you empty over the winter.

Mick Roberts

11:28 AM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by David Price at 03/09/2021 - 10:42
Yes if GR worked with us & I've had a few troll me on Twitter only eventually to say Oh, can see if from different side now.

Mick Roberts

11:28 AM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by at 03/09/2021 - 10:49
Yes, My tenants can't move any more cause of the constant Legislation causing Landlords to pack up & remaining ones thinking I ain't taking u Benefit tenants, too much risk now with Selective Licensing & Universal Credit. And I wish to sell about 40 of my houses right now, but can't crap on the tenants who's done nothing wrong.

The Corporates with their posh houses, we certain ain't gonna' let Benefit tenants live in 'em.

Mick Roberts

11:29 AM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Peter Gulline at 03/09/2021 - 11:20
Wow so in Scotland u can't advertise a house up to rent before tenant moves out? Be nice to know how the Scottish market goes.


15:09 PM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

What's the difference between the extra risk of a pet and that from a tenant with a less than perfect history? None, both have rouble renting with no risk adjustable deposit, in insurance vernacular you call it underwriting and the risk premium.

Mick Roberts

17:16 PM, 3rd September 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by moneymanager at 03/09/2021 - 15:09
Yes exactly. Car rental people refuse certain cars to certain aged people. Car insurance etc. But Oh No Landlord must take everyone. Well Mr Govt and Councils, these Draconian rules imposed on us are biting u back and worse still the tenants who aren't at the top of the tree.

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