Landlord Haters wanted Pet deposits banned – Now they wish to reverse that decision

Landlord Haters wanted Pet deposits banned – Now they wish to reverse that decision

13:34 PM, 2nd September 2021, About 3 years ago 18

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This shows how backwards and imbecilic this Government, Generation Rent and Shelter are. They called for the banning of an extra £100 to £200 deposit etc. for tenants with pets, so the government banned Landlords from charging an extra deposit for pets.

Now they want us to charge extra again, as tenants with pets are struggling to get homes. We told ’em this would happen.

Unbelievable! – Wasn’t this how we used to do it till the Govt & Generation Rent wrecked it for renters?

“They are calling for the legislation, which is the main barrier to solving the ‘lets with pets’ challenge, to be amended to enable agents and landlords to either charge tenants a pet deposit or require a tenant to take out specialist insurance.

“New data in a report being published today, ‘Heads for Tails by pet charity AdvoCATS, finds that almost one in five landlords who previously allowed pets in rented accommodation have stopped doing so since the passage of the Tenant Fees Act in 2019.

This is because, as the report explains, “the Act effectively prohibits landlords from asking for pet damage insurance and it fails to include a separate pet deposit as part of its list of permitted payments”.

My repeated notes on this:

Gees, how simple was it when we could just charge higher deposit and those that did no damage got all money back. So so simple.
No better insurance than the tenants own money.
Now look what Shelter and Generation Rent and the Govt have done. They have made it MUCH MUCH worse for tenants yet again.

My text below I’ve done before:

Landlords: pets are okay if you pay for extra insurance to cover any damage.
Gov: in that case we will make it illegal to charge extra insurance.
LLs: well then we will have to slightly increase deposits for those with pets.
Gov: in that case we will cap deposits at 5 weeks rent.
LLs: okay well we can’t really allow pets anymore then.
Gov: in that case we will force you to take tenants with pets.
LLs: well then we have no choice but to increase rent across the board even for tenants without pets.
Gov: oh.
Tenants: why is rent so high??

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Chris @ Possession Friend

9:58 AM, 4th September 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by terry sullivan at 03/09/2021 - 10:50
Shelter worked with MHCLG to produce the Tenants Disrepair complaint online guide.
The Government are NOT independent and unbiased in the PRS, as they obviously target Tenants in their 'levelling-up' ( read - winning votes in traditional Labour constituencies )
Make no mistake, renting is a huge political football and Landlords are the ball that's getting kicked around the pitch.
We even have Trojan horses who back-stab us and I wonder who can guess the 4 letter abbreviation of that 'Association' ( there, you have the last of the four letters. )

Mick Roberts

11:24 AM, 4th September 2021, About 3 years ago

That's right Chris,

Politics & votes unfortunately. Is it 9+ million tenants & 2.4 million Landlords.

I met me Labour MP few weeks ago, first thing he said was How u managing in Covid. I said I'm fine, but other Landlords have struggled, but now it's tenants who can't move & rents shot up even more. All since Corbyn in March 2020 called for Rent Holiday. Renters jumped for joy, but as soon as Corbyn mentioned that, he wrecked tenants lives, loads more Landlords thought 'I'm packing up'. Now Renters paying more.

It's like if they gave the whole UK choice to pay Tax or not. Majority in their fine wisdom would prefer not pay any tax, but we'd all be worse off.

Shelter needs to work with us cause it's clear all these policies since 2015 are temporarily hurting Landlord, then the policy is absolutely bashing the tenant. And some Landlords me included are much better off financially. However, I don't want that, I'm losing cause I can't sell me houses now cause the tenants can't move any more-Cause of the policies & other Landlords not taking 'em or packing up.


12:18 PM, 4th September 2021, About 3 years ago

Government policy is resulting in tenants paying huge amounts in rent - if they can even find anywhere to rent.

At least Landlords have the option to quit.

The government should be ashamed of itself

Mick Roberts

19:00 PM, 4th September 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by JB at 04/09/2021 - 12:18
That's the thing, Council and Generation rent and Landlord Haters say u can only put the rent up so much. And they are right. And if the rent is then too high for the tenant to afford and the numbers still don't add for the outgoings and the hassle, the Landlord can eventually sell. And that's where we are now.

17:31 PM, 5th September 2021, About 3 years ago

Not only do I allow pets in my higher end South East houses, I positively encourage it. I run a tiny dog rescue charity in Portugal, Most of my tenants have one if not 2 of my rescue dogs. I can't beat my tenants off with a stick. They stay with me for years and years. I get no void periods and they are all brilliant.

The houses are kept in great condition. You need to be able to read people effectively. Luckily I seem to be able too.

Mick Roberts

6:43 AM, 6th September 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Gillian Schifreen at 05/09/2021 - 17:31
Good on u for the dog charity.
I too took for years (& still do), but became more wary when a dog (unruly owner) chewed £1000 of stairs apart.
And yes, even more so nowadays, u let them have dog, they think u great & stay longer cause they worry the next rented house might not allow it.

All this cause they not allowed now to pay higher deposit if they wanted to. That's the key here. People shouted that Landlords not allowed any more to charge higher deposit. So Landlords had to legally stop. Now even if tenants are now shouting PLEASE let me pay higher deposit, Landlords not allowed to. The Not got a Cluers has took that choice away from them.


8:39 AM, 6th September 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 06/09/2021 - 06:43
Its sad to say but I know if I allow a tenant to have a pet (usually when the tenants been with me for a while and the carpets are old), I know they wont be going anywhere for a long time.

Contray to Shelter's rediculous view, I want my tenants to stay as long as possible so in a perverse way Shelter's done me favour by making it so difficult for a tenant to find accommodation that allows pets.

Mick Roberts

10:33 AM, 6th September 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by JB at 06/09/2021 - 08:39
Ha ha yes I say the same. All these Anti Landlord policies have actually made me better off financially as tenants can't move any more, I have no voids doing houses up in-between if I was to keep that particular house & do it top spec to leave with Letting Agent.

More they attack us, we generally find a way, yet the tenant ends up paying more & has less supply to choose from.

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