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11:02 AM, 25th March 2019, About 5 years ago 38
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I still have the tenant from hell. With the councils help I was misled to give a tenancy to this criminal tenant (who has done the same to many landlords before) with the understanding she will pay the rent with housing benefit. I stupidly agreed to let my property.
The tenant had some issues from very outset and she treated me with absolute contempt, refused to apply for her housing benefit and paid no rent what so ever, did not contact or gave me any explanation why rent was not paid.
I believe she used this tenancy to get herself a permanent council house and also had issues that I was not local, woman and a landlord!
I finally got the possession order last Tuesday and she texted me “I would have left by this weekend”! This was last weekend. She contacted the council who misled me to the tenancy by withholding information and indeed giving me false information about her and we all agreed that last Monday she would meet me at 9am, hand in keys and council arranged the inventory.
Sunday night I received a text from her telling me she can not move as she did not arrange a van. In the morning I contacted her asking about her plan for the day and reminded her that the inventory was waiting.
She told me she will do it later, but have not given time. She emailed the council and told them she will move after 15.30. I received an email from the council Monday evening telling me I should be relieved to finally get my keys.
I replied that still there was no keys. I was thinking she moved out, but did not hand in the keys. I texted her asking if she moved and told her that I was driving to the house as I was assuming she moved. I just wanted to check if she has. No reply. However I did not go.
On Tuesday as I had no reply, I drove to the property to check if she moved as she confirmed with council that she was on Monday.
I look through there were some furniture, I spoke to neighbours who told me she moved. I was convinced that she has so I told the neighbours to contact me if she turns up. I am worried that she will let others in my property to give me more trouble.
As soon as I got home, I received a text from the neighbours letting me know that she arrived. I called, but no answer so I texted her letting her know that I was sending my brother to pick up the keys.
She texted me back that I had to give her 24 hours notice that I can not just turn up and asking the keys would be an offence, claiming that I rushed her out even though court order expires on the 28th. I explained that the matter was that she did not paid me any rent what so ever and still going on about her rights.
She replied that her rent arrears does not mean anything as she is bankrupt.
I spoke to the local police, as I was worried she would take my white goods. The police advised me to go and wait outside on the day she originally was moving out as she offered. I mentioned to her that I received advice from the police referring to what he suggested, she replied that she does not give a toss about police as police can not do anything to her and I was threatening her.
I then send a text underlining that she enjoyed a rent and stress free 5 months in my property as I hardly ever contacted her and it was her who contacted me offering me that she was moving out. I said as far as I was let to believe that she moved out and it was my right to check on my property and seek my keys. This was 2 days ago.
I know the council gave her a house and the neighbour confirmed she moved out but still bullying me holding back my keys. Scaring me off even going and checking my property.
It seems she will not hand in the keys out of spite and hatred towards me and end of next week I will have to go back to the court apply for bailiffs which will be weeks and money lost as judge rejected the high court option and my plead trying to explain that it was a total episode of taking over my property taking advantage of laws protecting which normally should be seen criminal act but he was not prepared to listen and had a go at me.
Any thoughts please? Is there anyway getting my property back without going through bailiffs as she now occupies a tax payer funded property as well as my property free of charge.
Ela
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Ela
22:58 PM, 1st April 2019, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by wanda wang at 01/04/2019 - 22:38
She has just been abusing a minute ago. I asked whether she is taking her furniture or not she requested to deal as civil as possible! Beyond belief. This is the woman who has not said one word which is the truth. Her initials are R H. So watch out for this woman. Has 3 young kids, bad teeth and her husband works as a delivery driver and her mum whom arranged her fraud with her works as a nurse, yes as a nurse in a hospital. They are from Surrey. To be honest with you, no one with their right mind would give their 500k property to these people. So you should be fine. Obviously I was stunned. I have been reading recently about the circumstances which leads people to become victim of fraud. It happens when you are vulnerable. In my case also council staff misled me by confirming her rent will be paid by benefits but failed to mention that she has to apply in her own time to a completely different borough council. They made me believe that they will pay.
Chris @ Possession Friend
0:00 AM, 2nd April 2019, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Ela at 01/04/2019 - 22:58
I would attend that Council's next landlord meeting and share your story of their deceit with as many landlords as you can speak with - make it known to the organisers what you are doing !
Bristol Landlord
14:53 PM, 2nd April 2019, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Anthony Altman at 30/03/2019 - 17:05
Tony, which other countries would you favour to be a Landlord?
I’m seriously considering to sell up in the UK and reinvest somewhere else.
Thanks,
wanda wang
21:03 PM, 2nd April 2019, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Ela at 01/04/2019 - 22:58Hi Ela
A few years ago, I had a case, a woman with three you kids and her husband works as delivery driver. The woman is all lie through her teeth. They both got CCJ, I had county court and high court bailiff all on to them, in the end I got my money back through the attachment earning order.
wanda
Mkahn
22:34 PM, 2nd April 2019, About 5 years ago
Wanda Wong , what is attachment earning order and how it works. Can you please explain more about this. Thank you
Ela
8:26 AM, 3rd April 2019, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Mkahn at 02/04/2019 - 22:34
If your tenant is working, each month an amount of money given to you from his salary. I heard it’s small amounts. It’s best to not get caught first place, a knight mare otherwise.
wanda wang
21:23 PM, 3rd April 2019, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Ela at 03/04/2019 - 08:26
well , I got £150.00 a month deduction from his salary. not that small.
wanda
Devon Landlord
11:55 AM, 16th April 2019, About 5 years ago
It amazes me that there are still landlords out there who get ripped off by tenant scumbags. I read sad tales (and I do have sympathy) but you have to look at the situation from a dispassionate position right from the start. Q1, are you a member of a Landlords' Association, where you will get help, support and training through meetings which are designed to make you professional. Q2, do you invest in proper tenant find support from a good agent who will know the scumbags that make life difficult and help you avoid them? If you don't and listen to the Council then you are in for a hiding sooner or later. Councils don't care. One part is desperate to house people, the other part (Standards) try to make it as difficult as possible. Q3, have you visited the prospective tenant where they live now? That helps so that you can see what you property will look like after they move in. Q4, do you have to take HB tenants? 85% are fine but the other 15% make up 99% of the problems faced by the PRS! Q5, Did you visit in the first month (just to check that they were cosy and happy people) to see how fast things were going down hill? It pays to check and carry out regular checks and have this written into the contract and DO IT! Q6, Do you stick to your word and come over as professional and competent. If not you are likely to be ripped off by any sociopath out there who will see you as easy meat. You don't need to be huge and ugly, just firm and strong and fair. So, Best of LUCK if you didn't do well on the above check list because you may have VICTIM written all over you and that is what you will become!