Am I visiting my daughter as Mum or Landlord?

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14:06 PM, 29th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

Am I visiting my daughter as Mum or Landlord?

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Am I visiting my daughter as Mum or Landlord?

My daughter and her flatmate are my tenants. Not that my daughter pays any rent lol.

The flatmate has now demanded, after living there 16 months, that I give her 24 hours notice of visiting my daughter as her mum/guest/visitor.

I agree that I have to give 24 hours notice for an inspection or non-emergency repair(s).

I let the flatmate know that I was visiting this coming Thursday evening, for supper with my daughter, yesterday 27th Jan. The flatmate has responded that I legally have to give her notice as her landlord, not just a courtesy notice.

My question is: as I am visiting my daughter as her mother and guest do I legally have to give the flatmate 24 hours notice?

Think the flatmate’s new boyfriend, who is staying over 3+ nights per week in a Non-HMO licensed property, is prompting her.

Many thanks

Judith



Comments

Paul Shears

21:52 PM, 29th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

This is very odd and very frustrating for you. It makes me wonder if your daughter knows that you are coming round or what would be the situation if you arrived with your daughter. I would assume that your daughter would be a lead tenant if the situation were different. But this sounds to me like a bit of a mess with no proper contract in place.
It also sounds to me that there is a fundamental conflict of interest here that needs to be sorted. I don't see that the fact that you happen to be the landlord or indeed, your daughter's mother is in any way relevant. Your daughter is entitles to visitors.
Personally I would regard the flatmate as "too much trouble", and be looking to eliminate her from my life.

Judith Wordsworth

23:55 PM, 29th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

Thanks Paul
Hopefully by 1st May she will be out of my life lol. Fingers crossed

Martin Roberts

12:24 PM, 30th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

Unless you get her out this will get far worse.

I can see the woman and her boyfriend bullying your daughter out then stop paying rent while demanding their 'rights'.

Do it legally, but get her out ASAP.

terry sullivan

12:34 PM, 30th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

ttfo--and remove asap

Chris Daniel

13:32 PM, 30th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

If you are receiving rent from your daughters friend, then of course, you are her Landlord. ( or does she pay the rent to your daughter. )
You need a little more than ' online ' advice to handle situations like this.

Kate Mellor

13:49 PM, 30th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

My understanding is that you only have to give 24hours notice if you intend to enter whether or not the tenant is home. If you phone or knock on and are prepared to be turned away should they either not be home, or it not be convenient then that’s fine. Of course it’s always good practice where possible to give the notice so as not to unnecessarily disturb your tenant and to show them due consideration & respect.
In your situation you have been invited in by a tenant. Therefore you’re well within your rights to be there. Any difference of opinion as to whether you should be invited in is strictly between the two tenants and not you. Just as it would be if you were not the landlord, but simply any guest of tenants sharing a house where one party didn’t want you visiting. In fact it’s really your daughter’s place to tell her housemate that you’ve been invited over and she can then choose to be out if she wishes to avoid you. She’s just being a “complete dick” to use a technical term. 😆 As everyone else has said get rid ASAP!

paul kaye

13:52 PM, 30th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

trouble brewing.
I would never do this.
You would have been better to have a tenancy agreement only with your daughter.
Then say she can rent a room, your daughter can have £7500 income from the lodger each year with no tax.I would also have terms in the tenancy that the lodger
cannot have any one staying over night !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Having said this I would end the tenancy asap and have a new one for your daughter only,she can still rent a room,as said above.

Judith Wordsworth

14:16 PM, 30th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

Reply to the comment left by Kate Mellor at 30/01/2020 - 13:49
Thank you Kate your comments hit the nail on the head. Many thanks

Judith Wordsworth

14:23 PM, 30th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

Reply to the comment left by Chris Daniel at 30/01/2020 - 13:32
The flatmate pays the rent to me as my tenant.

Luke P

15:17 PM, 30th January 2020
About 3 weeks ago

If your daughter gives you permission to enter, your status as either LL or mother does not matter.

Not too dissimilar to one tenant being able to give notice that will affect all other tenants without their permission/agreement (outside the fixed terms).

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