Universal Credit is here !

Universal Credit is here !

9:18 AM, 28th May 2015, About 7 years ago 55

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I went to a Landlords Forum in Bridgend, Wales last week, what a nightmare! It is finally arriving, the dreaded Universal Credit!

This is where our tenants will receive the housing element of around £500 plus every month. Will they pay us?

Here is my idea to canvass. If you have Housing Benefit tenants they all fill in forms stating “if you do not tell us about any changes in circumstance we will prosecute you”. Now this means HB dept will prosecute for any change right. So…if the HB element of Universal Credit is not paid forward to the Landlord, then why can’t that be a change of circumstance? (The circumstance being that the UC paid forward by Gov’t is paid forward for that housing element).

I am lobbying my local MPs on this. I won’t accept any more rent voids, for if landlords like me go down, then any prospective tenant loses a chance with a good landlord. The very threat of prosecution under Universal Credit housing benefit element not being paid might just stop the tenant thinking they can get away with it.

Any thoughts fellow landlords??



by Gary Nock

14:08 PM, 31st May 2015, About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Jack Ass" at "31/05/2015 - 13:31":

Jack - just thank your lucky stars that Ed Moribund didn't get in. We would have been rounded up as heretics, our properties seized, and we would have been burned at the stake for being "capitalists"

by Rod

15:53 PM, 31st May 2015, About 7 years ago

Very true, or will it be " same horse different jocky"? We shall see!

by Jonathan Clarke

0:22 AM, 1st June 2015, About 7 years ago

For those who dont know of it please check out the HB amendment regs 2010 which came in force in April 2011. In my area it cuts out the need for the 8 week in arrears rule before i get paid direct . Every new tenancy I get paid direct as a matter of course as the wording says we can get paid direct if it - secures a new tenancy or to prevent eviction. Works every time

by Charles Fonteijn

10:42 AM, 1st June 2015, About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Jonathan Clarke" at "01/06/2015 - 00:22":

Where can we find these regulations?

by Luke P

11:58 AM, 1st June 2015, About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Charles Fonteijn" at "01/06/2015 - 10:42":

Anything you want to know about anything is on Google.

Legislation.gov.uk for ALL legislation.

Here's it spoon-fed:


by Charles Fonteijn

17:43 PM, 1st June 2015, About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Luke P" at "01/06/2015 - 11:58":

I have looked at it. The new rules introduced since 2011 are not mandatory. It is up to the Councils discretion. The 8 week rule is mandatory.

by Kulasmiley

20:30 PM, 1st June 2015, About 7 years ago

Right EVERYONE who has posted! PLEASE read my original posting. It says that WE should canvass our local MP (preferably a Conservative MP that understands business, and am I right in saying that local elections are upon us next year??
All HB landlords on this site should know that any "change of circumstances" for tenants who sign their housing benefit application that are NOT told to HB office risk PROSECUTION.

Therefore and please take note,


This should make tenant think twice about NOT paying forward the housing benefit element of Universal Credit.

This is THE MOST important money stream for HB landlords.


(think outside the box guys)

Kevin - AA Props Wales

by Sunny Rsa

22:29 PM, 8th June 2015, About 7 years ago

I have commented on another post but I will comment again here in order to make my message loud and clear...Keep away from DSS tenants unless you have years of experience dealing with them, you can tolerate all sorts of nonsense from the Local Authority and you can handle sleepless nights when you need to litigate.

by Kulasmiley

12:12 PM, 19th June 2015, About 7 years ago

Yup. I have lost all confidence in this renting to LHA tenants, I am going to lose my business with Universal Credit coming in. So I HAVE to raise my game, work harder to uplift my properties and think about renting to professionals. So the housing crisis lingers on, not my fault, I tried to help the unfortunate but the unfortunate helped themselves to my and government money, and they can do it time and time again until one of them feta jailed for taking the rent. Good luck out there you Lha Landlords!!

by Rod

12:36 PM, 19th June 2015, About 7 years ago

Yes AA, I couldn't have put it better myself! I'm sure people don't beleive me when I tell of their antics! Some time ago I wrote to channel 5 suggesting they show some imagination and take a look at tenants instead of slagging off l/lords constantly! Low and behold' next Wednesday they are going to do just that! Should be interesting! I write everywhere, the gov', TV, the lot!

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