Subject to status and referencing

Subject to status and referencing

15:55 PM, 11th June 2019, About 2 years ago 110

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Might the phrase “Subject to status and referencing” be more politically correct than “No DSS”?

The only reason I can think of for using the “No DSS” phraseology is if advertising is priced on a per word or per character basis. Unless you’re advertising in a Newspaper, which is very rare in this digital age, I cannot see much point anyway.

Furthermore, according to Wikipedia, “the Department of Social Security (DSS) is a defunct governmental agency in the United Kingdom.”

With that being the case, I cannot understand why lenders T&C’s still use the phraseology, or indeed why lobbyists such as Generation Rent or Shelter have such a problem with it.

Landlords generally only want three things from their tenants:-

  1. Pay the rent on time
  2. Respect the property
  3. Respect the neighbours

Proper referencing of prospective tenants should enable landlords to make an informed choice, and to purchase Rent Guarantee, Legal Fees Protection and other forms of insurance to mitigate their risks. Therefore, in my opinion, the phrase “No DSS” is entirely superfluous to advertising.

What are your thoughts on this?



Comments

by David Price

6:13 AM, 22nd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by ameliahartman at 21/06/2019 - 21:11
Yes Amelia you have identified the reasons for "No DSS"; late payment, the intransigence of the DWP to pay direct to landlords, inadequate levels of Housing Benefit. In my area I have the lowest rent for self contained property but it is still 30% above the HB level and will be increased in October by at least another 5%. Benefit tenants cannot afford even the cheapest property and I have yet to find a benefit tenant - one who relies solely on benefits - who can qualify for RGI.

by David Price

6:30 AM, 22nd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Seething Landlord at 21/06/2019 - 10:48
Amelia has not seen fit to answer the question I posed, which is fine for she inadvertently gave me the information I was seeking in her posts today.

I asked the question to eliminate another lady of the same name who posts on housing matters. The other Amelia has a degree in IT and the question was one an IT expert would have recognised immediately. Recursive Procedures are a computer programming technique which many novice programmers are psychologically unable to use. There are even some experts who cannot use the technique. Perhaps seething you will now understand why I could not elaborate on the question as I wanted to establish whether or not Amelia was a computer expert.

The IBM definition is :-

Recursive procedures. An active procedure that is invoked from within itself or from within another active procedure is a recursive procedure.

by Luke P

7:47 AM, 22nd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by ameliahartman at 21/06/2019 - 20:43So you’re reissuing H2R guides and re-depositing with the schemes every six months on your self-managed 37?

I take it your area isn’t licensed?

by Mick Roberts

8:47 AM, 22nd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by David Price at 21/06/2019 - 19:41
That's it David, Me, U, Rob Mellors, Jonathon Clarke, Luke P, Monty Bodkin, apologise if I've forgot anyone else.
We big HB Landlords.
We house a lot of people who otherwise wun't get anywhere else.
We know what keeps them in their homes.
We've took 'em on when others wouldn't (Aaahhh idiots us-Who could have seen the Govt & Council attacks coming after we did this).

We know the answers. But no one in power, anyone making these ridiculous decisions is not coming to talk to us & say do u think this will work or not?
Most prevalent OBVIOUS one I & maybe u can think is, LHA direct payment in 2008. It din't work. HB admitted this a few years later.
IT WAS ONLY 11 YEARS AGO!!!!!! And UC repeat the failed experiment, except much worse. Proper & I mean PROPER THICKO lot this Govt. No common sense or getting on the ground with the public thinking at all.

by Mick Roberts

8:48 AM, 22nd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Kate Mellor at 21/06/2019 - 19:43
I've already cornered the market Kate, I don't want it ha ha.

by Seething Landlord

10:13 AM, 22nd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by David Price at 22/06/2019 - 06:30
Thanks for that clarification. I had read the definition that you quoted and was unable to see any connection with the property market, hence my mystification. What you have inadvertently done is quash my long-held ambition to become a computer expert as I now realise that I am psychologically unsuited to this discipline 😀 A colleague once labelled me devious Dave but I am happy to relinquish that honour in your favour.

by David Price

10:58 AM, 22nd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Seething Landlord at 22/06/2019 - 10:13
I like your sense of humour.

I hope that you will now appreciate why I could not give any further indication until after Amelia had replied or as happened she supplied the information by an alternative means. By admitting that she was retired from her day job she indicated that she was probably too old to have studied computer science for it was not even a subject when she was young. I freely admit that his is not proof as she could have retired young, but does offer a degree of verification that she is not the Amelia who posts on Quora. Who she is and where she finds all the time to do the admin she describes for 37 properties remains a mystery.

by Michael Barnes

16:18 PM, 23rd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by JJ at 21/06/2019 - 15:19
So the problem with the law is that the Local Authority does not actually have the discretion *not* to recover the overpayment from the person or persons who have received the benefits; it's an obligation, they have to do it.

Can you point us to where this obligation is defined, please?

by Michael Barnes

16:21 PM, 23rd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by David Price at 21/06/2019 - 09:15are you comfortable with recursive procedures?
Are you talking about:
Recursion: see "Mutual Recursion".
Mutual Recursion: see "Recursion".
or
Q: How do you keep a [insert group of your choice here] man occupied for hours?
A: Give him a piece of paper with P.T.O on both sides.

by David Price

16:35 PM, 23rd June 2019, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Michael Barnes at 23/06/2019 - 16:21
Save your ink, give him a Möbius strip with PTO on it, that way you only have to write it once.


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