Letting my house without telling the mortgage company

Letting my house without telling the mortgage company

21:45 PM, 11th March 2013, About 11 years ago 73

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Letting my house without telling the mortgage companyWe live in a small two bedroom house with two children already and I have now found out I am pregnant again.

I rang the mortgage and asked about switching to a buy to let mortgage so we could let our house and rent instead . They made it sound really easy.

The paperwork came and it turns out we don’t fit about three of the criteria for a buy to let mortgage.

Now I don’t know what to do. It looks like its going to be impossible to get a buy to let mortgage.

Our credit it bad so switching to another provider is probably not an option either.

We now seem to be left with three bad options

  1. Let out the house without the mortgages consent but I am worried that a landlord insurance company might inform them or insurance would not pay out in the event of a claim.
  2. We sell the house at a big loss as there is no money left in it then have to pay off the rest of any debts secured against the house or
  3. Live in a very small house with either 3 kids sharing a small room or a child in the room with us.

We really are stuck at the moment as all options seem risky and stupid.

Any help or any other options would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks

Isabelle Smith


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Gary Byrne

10:51 AM, 7th November 2013, About 11 years ago

http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org. Also go onto Youtube and type in challenge your mortgage step 1. Go from there. step 2,3 etc.(white Rabbit- The Spaniard). These banks/lenders are sewer rats. Don´t be afraid of them, that´s what they prey on. Find people in the same boat as yourself and join forces. Hope this helps

11:55 AM, 7th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Lenders are launching a crack-down on those landlords who have let out a property on a residential mortgage without getting "consent to let".

They are checking the Land Registry, lettings listings, and social media to catch landlords out!

If you do not have "consent to let" on a resi mortgage, it is recommended that you come clean with your lender. If they find out otherwise, they may call in the loan, increase the interest rate, or impose a penalty. They can also black-list you on the Hunter list shared between lenders.

John Daley

13:30 PM, 7th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Hi Isabelle,

Two issues, the first is your mortgage. You signed an agreement which says you must disclose any relevant information to the lender. This is because the lender has given you the use of a very large amount of money which it is entitled to protect. If you sublet, which I do think your lender should allow with their permission, they will bump your mortgage interest up a bit, because the risk to their money has increased.

Having signed the deal you can't really complain now. I have to say that few posters on this site seem to be even lightly bound by their word or the contracts thay have signed.

The second thing is insurance. Insurance companies operate a principle of good faith, 'uberrimae fidei' in latin. Which means that not only must you tell the truth you must disclose anything that is relevant to your insurer.

In practical terms this means that if you fail to tell them anything that is relevant and letting your home is clearly relevant, you have invalidated your insurance contract which is a disaster in itself but also puts you in trouble with your mortgage company because you have to have insurance under the terms of the mortgage agreement. The mortgage firm could easily start action to repo the house on this basis.

At the end of the day I can't see how you will be ahead if you let your home, where will you live ? Surely it's cheaper to be overcrowded in your own home than pay out on rent to let a bigger home.

Gary Byrne

19:39 PM, 7th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "John Daley" at "07/11/2013 - 13:30":

You might have to help me out here. Did we sign a contract or did we sign an agreement?

When a person signs the mortgage deed do
they invoke a power of attorney allowing the ´lender´ to do things in their names? If they do then what has the ´lender´ executed in their names? If they have not then who signed the ´note´ ?

This very large some of money you refer to is created out of thin air, I think its called fractional lending i.e lending you money they don´t have. If not then where is the proof such money existed? Show me where the money came from and who incurred the loss. If a bank lend us thin air and don´t get paid back then surely they have lost thin air

Sometimes circumstances change and all we want to do is keep our heads above water. If a bank or lender are not willing to help people who have fallen on hard times, then its about time their fraudulent workings were exposed.

Gary Byrne

19:41 PM, 7th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "John Daley" at "07/11/2013 - 13:30":

You might have to help me out here. Did we sign a contract or did we sign an agreement?

When a person signs the mortgage deed do
they invoke a power of attorney allowing the ´lender´ to do things in their names? If they do then what has the ´lender´ executed in their names? If they have not then who signed the ´note´ ?

This very large some of money you refer to is created out of thin air, I think its called fractional lending i.e lending you money they don´t have. If not then where is the proof such money existed? Show me where the money came from and who incurred the loss. If a bank lend us thin air and don´t get paid back then surely they have lost thin air

Sometimes circumstances change and all we want to do is keep our heads above water. If a bank or lender are not willing to help people who have fallen on hard times, then its about time their fraudulent workings were exposed.

tony

23:48 PM, 9th November 2013, About 11 years ago

AN over crowded house is nothing compared to my property problem.
1 i have a property 300 miles from where im living which the lender will not consent to renting out,
2 price is below MV, 3 the lender wont offer me or provide me with a bye to let remortgage and since 2 months ago the lender has instructed and allowed LPA RECEIVERS to take over the property.
So thats Redstone Mortgage for you who was fined more than 650,000 K for mis treating customers back in 2010
any helpful suggestions would be great.

9:36 AM, 10th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Tony Church" at "09/11/2013 - 23:48":

Hi Tony,

Sorry to hear of your plight.

What prompted them to take this action? A simple breach of T & C's of was your mortgage in arrears?

Why did you not just re-mortgage away to a BTL mortgage product with another lender?

Now that it has gone to LPA Receivers, its very difficult to come back from that situation.

The only thing you could do is contact the lender and ask them to stand the receiver down so that you can take back the property via re-mortgaging it to another lender.

Have you contacted a broker to find out if any BTL products fit this property or your circumstances?

tony

12:38 PM, 10th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Hi Vanessa i didnt take any action i have been renting the property for a few years with out any problem,and never been in arrears, the mortgage company decided that they wanted me to pay off the mortgage all at once or to return to live there to rectify the breach, so this was totally uncalled for and bad course of action for redstone to take. this extreme course of action they refuse to give me a buy to let mortgage and my credit is not good enough to remortgage to a BTL mortgage, so for the time being im stuck, I am considering taking them to the ombudsman or to court.for unfair treatment to their lender.

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

13:02 PM, 10th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Tony Church" at "10/11/2013 - 12:38":

Hi Tony

I can't see why you think you have a case against Redstone. By your own admission, it is you who is in breach of contract, not them.

I had a look around Google today to search for other forums discussing Redstone. All I could find was people who are in arrears, or have breached their mortgage conditions in other ways, moaning about being treated unfairly. What exactly has Redstone done wrong?

If your tenants don't pay you or if they breach the terms of their tenancy then you would expect a judge to side with you and grant possession wouldn't you? How is this any different?
.

tony

19:46 PM, 10th November 2013, About 11 years ago

you need to research more on Google then you will see that they was fined over 165,000 k for treating customers unfairly, Redstone have done a lot wrong they have neglected to deal with my situation fairly by not changing the mortgage to BTL that would have corrected the breach and I also gave them a very good offer to repay a lot of money off the mortgage within the next 5 years then to remortgage if they gave me wright to let, which is in there best interest as well as mine, but they are so narrow minded and short sited that they dont know what to do.

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