The Latest Campaign Poster from Shelter

The Latest Campaign Poster from Shelter

17:05 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago 58

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The Latest Campaign Poster from Shelter

I think Shelter ought to try building some bridges with landlords.

Shelter only usually get to hear about bad landlords and that’s not healthy for their perspective.

Their constant drum bashing about “rogue landlords” doesn’t do Shelter many favours in terms of the perceptions of GOOD Landlords towards Shelter either.

If I was in charge of PR at Shelter I would hold a GOOD Landlords competition whereby tenants could vote for the UK’s best landlord and explain why. That way, Shelter’s perspective of landlords might change and they would have a blueprint of what makes a good landlord from a tenants perspective. Better to be able to have a clear target in the sight before taking a shot.

What do you think?

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Industry Observer

17:13 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago

Normally I'd agree with you Mark but remember what I assume they are getting at here is retaliatory evictions.

Where scum landlords evict tenant from slum properties for daring to ask for basic repairs, like having the heating working or thw water running but not down the walls.

Fed Up Landlord

17:15 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago

Without being labelled as a DCI Gene Hunt throwback, Shelter seems to be run by left wing tree hugging anti-capitalists who think tenants should be able to live in landlords properties rent free and have all their heating charges and council tax paid as well.

Fed Up Landlord

17:16 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago

And I await the inevitable incoming from Industry Observer 🙂

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

17:20 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago

Thank you IO and Gary for making my point for me so well.

Gary is totally representative of the perceptions of PRS landlords.

IO is not a landlord and yet he knew exactly what Shelter are getting at.

So I ask again, what do you think of my suggestion?

17:22 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago

Nice suggestion Mark, I will put it to Shelter at my next meeting with them. SpareRoom is working with Shelter in order to get the voices of a wider spectrum of people involved in renting heard - from sharers to landlords and to create a fairer PRS for everyone.

Industry Observer

17:29 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago

I was going to ask Gary to keep up as mine was first post but as you have responded Mark I won't.

The whole point here is this is about retaliatory evictions and no self respecting landlord should support another wh just because tenants ask for reasonable repairs and a basic standard of decency, responds with a s21 paper instead of wallpaper.

Gary if you think I support Shelter you are very wrong, just as I do not support bum Landlords.

Unsafe Deposits in 1998 was one of the most scurrilous pieces of research ever and how it ended up generating the TDP provisions still defeats me. But then often Citizens Advice well meaning though they are also only listen to one side of a story, like the local authority waifs and strays department.

I'm for accuracy and correctness especially in matters legal Gary. But I will just warn everyone on this point - attack Shelter on it and what you'll end up with like it or not is longer term tenancy agreements BY LAW as it is the only way to stop retaliatory evictions.

i.e. Landlords using mandatory powers under s21 - is that what you want?

Sam I'm amazed if you have Shelter's ear I've rarely known such a self focused organisation that believes theirs is the only agenda. In terms of PRS this translates as being pro tenants and anti Landlords.

Industry Observer

17:31 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago


IO may not be a Landlord himself but looks after now 6 properties for friends and family so close enough to the action to know how Landlords are impacted upon thank you.

Also close enough to be taking an ARLA agent first to TPO for poor management of a friends property.

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

17:37 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Sam Cowen" at "27/03/2014 - 17:22":

Thank you Sam.

As you know, I disapprove of pledging to raise so much money for Shelter and I think it does your business a lot more harm than good.

However, if you do manage to persuade Shelter to consider my suggestions I may just reconsider downgrading the word Shelter to an Amber alert 🙂

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

17:43 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "27/03/2014 - 17:37":

PS - don't get me wrong, I'm as much against retaliatory eviction as any other GOOD Landlord. I have published several "Readers Questions" articles for tenants who find themselves in this awful position and many GOOD Landlords have been incredibly supportive and offered sound advice. One example is this >>> and here's another >>>

Fed Up Landlord

17:48 PM, 27th March 2014, About 10 years ago

Ah....... Industry Observer. Yes you saw what Shelter are getting at. And yes - I know you are not a fervent Shelter supporter - but to balance it out ( as you are a very well balanced poster) neither are you on the side of rogue landlords.

Neither am I. I too shudder when I hear some of the stories and shake my head. When I let a property I give the prospective tenants a "moving in quotation" which details everything that I charge for. Which isn't a lot. How many private landlords and for that matter letting agents do that? Equally I get annoyed when tenants from other agents contact me looking for a property because they cannot get basic repairs done. You know luxuries like heating and water !!

But Shelter really do need, I suppose like PRS Landlords do, to get a more positive PR image with each other. And to that end a Shelter "Good Landlord" scheme would be a good idea. But they will not do it. Because it spoils the image they portray of the PRS and their own political beliefs.

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