Environmental Health want to give me ASBO for my tenants dog poop

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10:40 AM, 5th May 2015
About 6 years ago

Environmental Health want to give me ASBO for my tenants dog poop

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Environmental Health want to give me ASBO for my tenants dog poop

I have a few houses in Nottingham HB tenants.

I normally have good working relationship with Environmental Health, but recently, one of my tenants dogs been poo-ing on back garden which is not nice for neighbours I know.

The neighbour knows Sherriff of Nottingham which is having influence of this.

Please see below my letter to Env Health, & if anyone has more experience of me on this?

I know we shouldn’t have loads of rubbish on our gardens from tenants etc.,

But can anyone more knowledgeable than me, tell me if I am going to get a criminal conviction, ASBO etc., for one of my tenants dogs doing a poo on their own garden?

They are quoting Env Protection act 1990 Sec 80.
And statutory nuisance 79(1).

How far are us Landlords held accountable for tenants actions?

Letter to Env Health:

Dear XXXX,

You rang me Friday 1 May 2015 at approx 10am, I wasn’t expecting your call, so couldn’t talk.

There’s not a lot I can do if I’m in a meeting & you’ve just rang me when I’m with someone, so it would be good, if you could ring me back.
Because as you know, it’s quite hard for me to ring you back with your automated system, queuing etc. And then get hold of you direct, unless you ring me from your direct line & I ring you straight back on that from my call log.

And then the next thing I know, I get warning letter, I think one of previous letters may have even mentioned ASBO.

I’ve spoke to Cawston several times, every time I go there, garden is clear. What can I do if this is the case?
I know you said you’ve been & dog mess on garden. But clear when I go?

I will always listen to you & co-operate with you, but I don’t think it helps when I get warning letter out the blue when I asked for you to ring me back to discuss.

I know you know your rules regs etc., but I don’t see what I can if a dog has poo-ed at 10am & I’m not there?
XXXXXX at Cawston has taken massive steps to clear gardens up.
As you know, I’ve done my bit cleaning the bits of rubbish off gardens you’ve asked me to.

As we know, the neighbour next door knows the Sheriff of Nottingham, which I know is having a lot of influence over this, as she has rang me personally.

If this is a hygiene problem with xxxxx personally, then surely she needs help with that, does she not? I’m not trained in Social Services, & will help when can, but I cannot control when a dog poos & when not.
I can appreciate not nice dog poo on garden, but what’s to say dog not poo-ed 10mins before you visit?

Please ring me & see what we can do.
I could give her notice, but she is going to take the problem to her next house, as I think I’ve already been told from Env Health, she had this problem at last house, so why not help her solve the problem going forward?

I await your call.

Mick Robertspoop


brian clement

0:29 AM, 24th May 2015
About 6 years ago

This is the tip of the ice burg of problems caused by renting to tenants with dogs. There are plenty of tenants out there without pets. Why do you give yourself a hard time. Never ever rent to people with dogs, cats or any other pet. No pets equals no pet problems, simple.

Robert Mellors

9:03 AM, 24th May 2015
About 6 years ago

Apparently the Tories are now going to introduce mandatory licencing for ALL landlords, so with all these Environment Health involvements (and threats of enforcement action), I guess it may be time to retire?!!!!

Joe Bloggs

10:22 AM, 24th May 2015
About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "brian clement" at "24/05/2015 - 00:29":

there are many responsible dog owners. and not all parts of the uk have xs demand.

Mick Roberts

7:56 AM, 27th May 2015
About 6 years ago

I need to ruddy save all these tips don’t I, like OFT can’t enforce no pets & re-issue notice on tenant etc. Very interesting ammunition them two tips.

Ha ha no pets = no problems. If only it were that simple. I go some mornings & all of a sudden, tenant has 4 or 5 dogs I kid u not.

Yes the new licensing thing, what next? Less houses, = more choice for Landlords that stay, albeit with more hassle, plus Universal Credit & Benefit cap. The time is coming for me to get my tenants referenced checked from Letting Agency with Guarantor. The one I have took like that has been impeccable.

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