The Dirty Dozen

by Larry Sweeney

14:22 PM, 4th July 2019
About 5 months ago

The Dirty Dozen

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The Dirty Dozen

The Alliance promised to publish a list of rogue/non-compliant local authorities who have introduced selective licensing schemes. Our list is not exhaustive. We have spent a lot of time studying these schemes and we will in due course update and add to this list.

For now therefore because of time constraints we will only list 12 councils. Any landlords who have properties in these boroughs and are concerned, please email us with your alliance membership details and we will outline the nature of the non compliance by these useless bodies.

We are not paid by the taxpayer to educate these clowns with respect to their schemes so we will not be educating them or pointing out the exact nature of the flaws in their schemes, on this forum.

Landlords can join the alliance here >>

Now to our dirty dozen:

  1. Liverpool city council. This council gets a special mention because of the fraudulent manner in which their revenue raising scheme was introduced. They insulted Liverpool by claiming that the entire city was an area of low demand.
  2. Nottingham city council.
  3. Croydon council.
  4. Brent council.
  5. Harrow council.
  6. Durham council.
  7. London borough of Redbridge.
  8. Wirral borough council.
  9. Sheffield council.
  10. Middlesborough council.
  11. Waltham forest council.
  12. Barking and Dagenham council.

If landlords are looking for reasons to join us there are 12 above. Perhaps the worst part of this is some of the above authorities have co-regulation schemes with another landlord body. How on earth can any landlord body get in to bed with Sheffield council?

To explain the extent of the farce that is Sheffield they specify that landlords/managers must not live more than 2 hours away. Sheffield landlords, there is your get out clause. Do they mean 2 hours on foot, or by car or by helicopter.

What on earth is a landlord association doing associating itself with this tosh?

No other landlord organisation has ever fought as the Alliance has done and is doing to protect landlords from these bodies abusing their powers.

Our housing policy published a few days ago, click here, called for central control of regulations pertaining to the PRS. The mess that is selective licensing proves beyond any doubt that local authorities are completely incapable of devising schemes which do not breach some piece of legislation yet threaten landlords with criminal sanctions for failure to sign up to their rubbish.

As stated above, we are examining several other schemes and will in due course list them.

A final note. We had intended listing Sefton Council but following our meeting with them, they have amended their application process and are further working on data protection issues pointed out to them by the Alliance. For those reasons we are happy to allow Sefton the time they need to rectify said issues and commend Sefton for listening and working to get a water tight scheme meeting all regulatory conditions.



13:05 PM, 5th July 2019
About 5 months ago

For those of you who are not members of the “Alliance”, from seeing how it goes about supporting us landlords and my direct experience with Larry, I would say that any landlord who has not joined should make sure they join as landlords need a fighting force for their rights. Larry knows how to tackle these organisations and how to deal with those councils that use bullying tactics and does fight for landlords’ rights unlike the other so called Landlord organisations.
I recently had a council send me notices to inspect 12 properties within 2 weeks, and the onus was on me to gain access to the properties (where there would be the possibility of tenants not giving access within this short period of time) and, I was expected to provide a huge amount of information for the inspection which included explaining how I would deal with anti-social behaviour (when I know they have been unable to deal with an anti-social tenant (not mine) who has been in a property for around 8 years and both the council and police have repeatedly been involved with over the years and the tenant is still in situ and none of the anti-social behaviour has been resolved) for each property all of which would probably have taken me most of the two week period without even having the inspection.
Having replied to the council on Larry’s advice on how to word it, I have been left alone since February.
All I can say to those who have not joined the “Alliance”, is make sure you

Property manager Liverpool

13:21 PM, 5th July 2019
About 5 months ago

Loved reading this. Sometimes we can feel so alone when we're up against big bullies like the council.

I just wish the newspapers would get wind of how corrupt they are. Media coverage would do the trick to name and shame them, then I'd feel like a bit of justice had been done! I have faith it will all come out in the end.

Mick Roberts

14:18 PM, 5th July 2019
About 5 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Clint at 05/07/2019 - 13:05
Brilliant Clint & Larry.

Nottingham Council have said we must have anti social behaviour policy & like u will formally demand it one day.
I told em last year, what policy? We han't got this problem. None of my tenants cause this problem, nor in the areas where they live is it a problem, so why should we walk around in stab vests when we don't circle with that group?

They've had a problem with a few houses, now all 32,000 must have a policy. Except Private houses of course. Oh they too important & well behaved to have policies.

John Bullock

18:20 PM, 5th July 2019
About 5 months ago

I was part of that team that met with Sefton. I can assure all those thinking about membership that Larry is doing this for YOU as like many of us he is sick of landlords being the brunt of poor central and local government thinking but Larry took action. The NLA meaning the National Landlord Alliance is not a talking shop but an ACTION group looking to even the field. Sick of being a door mat then join the fight as we have drawn the lines here.


22:46 PM, 5th July 2019
About 5 months ago

Leeds City Council has approved a Selective Licensing scheme even though their CONsultation overwhelmingly rejected the idea (62% against). When illustrated how rents would rise (89% of landlords stated this would be paid for via rent increases); the council AND councillors said there was no evidence of this! Even though evidence was given...


0:36 AM, 6th July 2019
About 5 months ago

Ha ha! Rolling about laughing here! Nottingham Council won't give a licence to a landlord who lives out of the country. How many more stupid rules can they think up that will lose people their home and force landlords to sell up. I would absolutely LOVE TO SEE THIS ONE CHALLENGED IN COURT!

Mick Roberts

10:49 AM, 6th July 2019
About 5 months ago

Reply to the comment left by tnetik at 05/07/2019 - 22:46100% evidence of this rent increases in Nottingham.
And u ought to tell the Councillors to come ask Nottingham what happened to the main Councillor Urquhart who bought in Licensing.
No has heard anything from her.
After going against me on the Radio twice and me disproving her claims in the Media many times, She was told to stop lying about rents won't go up from it.
And I heard it was me that forced her departure. No one's heard anything from her since.

Annie Landlord

11:11 AM, 6th July 2019
About 5 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 05/07/2019 - 11:41
Hi Mick,
will Nottingham not allow an overseas landlord a licence even if they employ a lettings agent to fully manage? Sounds absolutely crazy!

Mick Roberts

11:56 AM, 6th July 2019
About 5 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Annie Landlord at 06/07/2019 - 11:11No, the person with the License has to be in the UK.
So that effectively stops all investors wanting to invest and leaving it with the most bestest superbest responsiblest ha ha Letting Agent ever. Effectively excluding loads more houses for the homeless. That's good of Licensing in't it.
There was some Landlords requesting this. But licensing were fighting it.
Then from memory some Letting Agents said what about if u allow us just 50 houses to be licensed with us.
There was no definite answer at the time as a lot of letting agents din't want the responsibility of being licensed for someone else's house.
It's a complete mess.
I'm overseas now and I've got a plumber going to a house as we speak. No detriment at all to the tenants, but if I want to move here, no License no house no tenants home. Complete nuts.
We can't run things remotely apparently. Although they can take our money remotely and not even look at the house, but take our £780 to play Jobsworths with computers and see if they can bring in anything else that screws the tenant up. Well they try screwing the Landlord, but as we know, that ends up screwing the tenant.

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