Seeking some initial advice

Seeking some initial advice

1:21 PM, 11th May 2023, 3 years ago 11

Dear Property118

I am looking for some initial advice as I want to help my mother with her property held in a limited company. Since my father went into care she now manages the company which holds two rental flats. There are mortgages on both. My brother are also Directors of the company. My brother lives in one of the company-owned flats…

How best to deal with this going forward so he can stay in the flat and our mother can pass on the company assets to us both jointly?

As I say it’s an initial question so pointers at this stage is appreciated. Obviously I’m willing to pay for advice going forward as needed and not looking for freebies.

Best regards

Robert


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  • Member Since January 2011 - Comments: 12195 - Articles: 1396

    1:26 PM, 11th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Hi Robert

    Some initial pointers.

    1) Are the mortgage lenders aware that your brother lives in one of the properties? This could be in breach of the mortgage terms.

    2) It isn’t clear who owns the company. Is it your father only, your Mother only, both of them jointly, or something else?

    3) When you ask “how best to deal with this”, please can you explain what you mean when you say “this” please? Are you referring to the potential breach of mortgage conditions or something else?

    4) If company shares are transferred to you and your brother there may be tax consequences and a requirement to refinance the business.

    5) Is it simply that you are looking into the future and deciding how your parents structure their Wills and how this will impact you on their passing?

  • Member Since May 2023 - Comments: 1

    1:42 PM, 11th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Reply to the comment left by Mark Alexander – Founder of Property118 at 11/05/2023 – 13:26
    Hi Mark

    1 It is agreed (he has been there several years)
    2 My mother is a director. My father is now retired from the company (he set it all up). As far as I can see there are 140Ks work of shares with a 100k/40k split mother/father. If you retire do you automatically lose the shares?
    3 With this I mean from inheritance. As all options are open I would like to know if a continuation in the company would be best or insted just to sell it all and pay all the various taxes.
    4 As I understand it there could be a planned tranfer of shares over time to minimise the taxes..
    5 Yes, and if the better option is to close the company completely or maintain it as a going concern (Both options are doable but either way my brother needs to stay in the flat)

    Thanks for any pearls of wisdom. Best regards
    Robert

  • Member Since January 2011 - Comments: 12195 - Articles: 1396

    2:28 PM, 11th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Reply to the comment left by Robert Neale at 11/05/2023 – 13:42
    Your answer to my Q1 is noted.

    Your answer to Q2 is NO.

    Your remaining questions cannot be answered without first completing a full discovery process which is the first element of a tax planning consultation with Property118.

  • Member Since October 2020 - Comments: 1144

    2:48 PM, 11th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Company legislation requires 2 directors to sign certain documents related to a tenancy. I’m not sure your brother could be one of the two on anything related to his tenancy.

  • Member Since July 2013 - Comments: 1996 - Articles: 21

    3:10 PM, 11th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Reply to the comment left by David at 11/05/2023 – 14:48
    “Company legislation requires 2 directors to sign certain documents related to a tenancy” No it doesn’t. Tenancies of up to 3 years can be signed as contracts with a single signatory. Tenancies for longer than three years must be executed as deeds but even then a sole director can sign in the presence of a witness.

    If you are thinking of the case where a judge held that a prescribed information notice had to be signed as if it were a deed that has been overturned.

  • Member Since January 2011 - Comments: 12195 - Articles: 1396

    3:14 PM, 11th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Reply to the comment left by Ian Narbeth at 11/05/2023 – 15:10
    Thanks Ian, you beat me to it

  • Member Since January 2015 - Comments: 27

    11:35 AM, 12th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Property Problem
    I have a property on a BTL mortgage.
    The mortgage comes to an end in August 2023.
    I can obtain another mortgage.
    The Problem: I have another landlord interested in buying the property tenanted
    The tenant is on a periodic tenancy but wants a new AST.
    I have told the tenant they can have a new AST but the rent to be increased. All agreed.
    Any ideas please on how to proceed.
    I have been a landlord for 25 years but never come across a dilemma such as this
    1 Should I take the mortgage (min 2yrs) Penalties.
    2 Would the new AST still stand. Thank you
    Brian

  • Member Since January 2011 - Comments: 12195 - Articles: 1396

    12:26 PM, 12th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Reply to the comment left by Brian Jackson at 12/05/2023 – 11:35
    Hi Brian

    Don’t take the new mortgage if you don’t want to pay the redemption penalties. Stay on SVR.

    Tenancy Agreement are transferable, but be careful about agreeing another because you investor buyer could pull out and then it could be much harder to sell without vacant possession.

  • Member Since January 2015 - Comments: 27

    12:37 PM, 12th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Mark

    Thank you

  • Member Since August 2013 - Comments: 323 - Articles: 1

    2:07 PM, 12th May 2023, About 3 years ago

    Robert: Are you aware of Annual Tax on Enveloped Dwellings (ATED)? If the property is valued at more than £500,000 you will be caught by this.

    Sorry to add another issue rather than providing a solution. Just making you aware, just in case.

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