Section 21 – Emergency meeting and joint delegation

Section 21 – Emergency meeting and joint delegation

9:47 AM, 17th April 2019, About 3 years ago 28

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The National landlords Alliance, while profoundly disagreeing with the approach of the NLA and RLA, believe that we should all put our differences aside and hold an emergency summit without delay to discuss and agree a common approach to the proposed abolition of section 21. Also to rethink our position on section 24, a fight which many appear to have given up on.

We propose a joint delegation to government and we also want other organisations such as Ihowitz and the Humber Landlords association to join us.

The Alliance is asking these organisations to contact us without delay and the Alliance will supply and fund the costs of a venue in Manchester to host this meeting.

We urge everybody in the NLA and RLA to put all differences aside and join us now in the interests of all the members who deserve our unqualified support.

NLA/RLA, please email us urgently and confirm your agreement to meet without any preconditions.

This would be the first time all landlord organisations came together as one to protect our vital interests. It is the very least we can do for our members.


Annie Landlord

13:32 PM, 19th April 2019, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Cathie Hawkins at 19/04/2019 - 09:23
I think that's a great idea, because there is so much misinformation out there. You need a thick skin mind. I engage a lot with tenant groups and individuals on social media and the language can get, well a bit flowery, at times:) I'm currently sharing David Smith's video
on tweets and posts from tenant groups in the hope people will view it, learn about why S21 is used, and ask questions. We do need to bear in mind though that the renters union type groups are radicals, their actions can border on the illegal and their anti capitalist stance precludes any balanced debate.

David Lawrenson

10:45 AM, 23rd April 2019, About 3 years ago

I think the more that get together, the better.
We all have different approaches.
I can say more ahem, direct things than the NLA can - and have done, especially about Build to Rent nonsense and hype. They cannot be seen to be too critical, e.g. about Shelter's boss generous pay, but have to work with government.
I'm always happy to support.
My views on S21 abolition, for what it's worth are, it could be a great opportunity, if it is shaped right:
Kind regards
David Lawrenson
Private Rented Sector advice.

Jireh Homes

13:56 PM, 25th April 2019, About 3 years ago

The proposed abolition of Section 8 is similar to the removal of the "fixed term" in Scotland introduced with the Private Tenancy legislation in 2017 and we now have experience of a good working alternative with the First Tier Tribunal due to the work of Scottish Association of Landlords influencing the grounds for terminating the lease. RLA have access to this experience through their association with SAL.

David Lawrenson

14:52 PM, 25th April 2019, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Jireh Homes at 25/04/2019 - 13:56
Is it proving easier or more difficult or the same in Scotland to get possession now where there has been ASB.

Heather G.

18:11 PM, 29th April 2019, About 3 years ago

Can everyone please complete the RLA survey on the link below? They've already had 3,000 responses but the more who respond, the more robust the stats will be.

Chris @ Possession Friend

18:46 PM, 29th April 2019, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by David Lawrenson at 25/04/2019 - 14:52
David, My company specialise in Difficult Possession cases and Anti-Social behaviour. ASB due to the legislative constraints is next to impossible to achieve. I am working with one Local Authorities ASB co-ordinator at the moment. They have been working on the case for over a year and we're looking since my involvement to get a Section 21 Possession well before even the possibility of an ASB eviction.

TheMaluka View Profile

23:30 PM, 29th April 2019, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Chris Daniel at 29/04/2019 - 18:46
Chrids that confirms my belief that it is near impossible to get a possession for ASB using a section 8. I have one tenant for whom I have a police statement saying that she has been cautioned for drug offences but that is not sufficient, she has to have a conviction. Meanwhile the drug usage and dealing continues and I have to use a section 21.

David Lawrenson

8:12 AM, 30th April 2019, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by David Price at 29/04/2019 - 23:30
Thanks for those responses.
I was really asking how it was in Scotland re getting property back where there has been ASB since they abandoned S21 there. Sorry was not specific on earlier post.
Was it made any easier there?
David Lawrenson

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