NLA/RLA Merger – Stand and fight with us

by Larry Sweeney

14:04 PM, 30th August 2019
About 7 months ago

NLA/RLA Merger – Stand and fight with us

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NLA/RLA Merger – Stand and fight with us

Last November the Alliance was formally launched. Around this time the NLA and RLA entered in to discussions to merge. On behalf of the Alliance, our steering committee and all our members nationwide I would like to offer our best wishes to the new NRLA .

The new merged association will still only represent less than 5% of all landlords and we represent an even smaller number. That is the reality. Those landlords who have paid dues to organisations be it ourselves or the NLA/RLA and others, deserve better. We along with our members are doing our best to fight back against the subversion of accountancy rules (s24) as well as dodgy non compliant selective licensing schemes.

Why on earth are 94% of the landlord community allowing this assault on the PRS. Despite being a new organisation the Alliance has driven the agenda for the past 12 months. We on this forum proposed a summit of all landlord bodies which culminated in the RLA (FPC) in London which meets again today.

The Alliance came about because Landlords will no longer accept being the whipping boy for the housing shortage. We save deposits, get mortgages, pay SDLT, lose tax relief, pay empty Council Tax, pay for a licence to rent our asset, and maintain the property. Yet the likes of Shelter who house absolutely nobody as well as ignorant politicians blame landlords for the plight of some tenants.

Worse Shelter want to remove our right to get rid of ASB tenants and rent defaulters and furthermore dictate to us who we should accept as tenants. Yet this very organisation time and again refuses to bond benefit tenants.

The Alliance says no. Enough is enough. Landlords, please join us (CLICK HERE) and help us to help you.

Our message to the new NRLA is as follows. We do not want to take more of your members, on the contrary we encourage all landlords to join one of our organisations now, but we must remember that landlords want an organisation with teeth. Landlords want an organisation which will fight tooth and nail against licensing schemes, which are nothing more than revenue raising scams and landlords do not want engagement with organisations such as Shelter which does nothing but undermine the PRS. Hopefully we will not see any more Shelter poetry.

In summary ,Good luck to the NRLA we hope you will stand with us and fight for the rights of all property owners and I firmly believe that a new approach by this body will gain them members. In the mean time the Alliance will continue the fightback.

In less than 12 months without selling any products, with only the revenue from membership, we have:

  • Stopped over 25 council prosecutions against landlords nationwide
  • We have exposed Shelter for the kind of set up it is
  • We oppose selective licensing and have uncovered several schemes which are non compliant
  • We have sent a delegation to a local authority who accepted our findings meaning we have protected landlords dealing with this authority
  • We have put proposals to the MoJ re possession procedures
  • We have taken part in the FPC and we oppose absolutely the abolition of S21

Our work continues apace.

The Alliance invites all landlord organisations to join us and call for Shelter to be disbanded. Imagine what a £60m cash injection could do to alleviate homelessness.

There were those who called us foolhardy to take on Shelter. The support we have on this front grows daily. Landlords write to Swinton insurance, pull your business. They sponsor Shelter. To the new Nrla we also say. Bin Shelter.

Together let’s protect property owners rights. If the new NRLA gets into the trenches with us and makes it clear that it will push back against the hate agenda, no ifs,no buts, not only will it retain members but it will grow. We want to see this as 94% of landlords are unrepresented.

It’s not a fight between us for members, what it should be is a collaboration to grow representation. Landlord apathy is the problem and it is most unfair to members of all our organisations that approx 6% of landlords pay dues to support bodies which fight for the PRS. Landlords need to get on board.

Landlords join the Alliance


Larry Sweeney

22:22 PM, 4th September 2019
About 7 months ago

To Negative Annie, no time to split hairs with you. Too busy working for landlords but I can confirm that you are not a member and have sniped from the sidelines from day one. Negative Annie, if you have nothing constructive to say then say nothing.
To Michael Barnes, Michael as Mark said you have hit the nail on the head. I have also said it time and again. The real enemy is Landlord apathy. It is shocking that collectively we represent approx 6% of all landlords. It is wrong that this small number of landlords pay membership and do their very best while the rest of the PRS stay on the sidelines.

Monty Bodkin

11:15 AM, 5th September 2019
About 7 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Chris Daniel at 04/09/2019 - 22:02
It doesn't matter what the name of the Association is, if they're fighting for Landlords, then we're all on the same side, surely ?

To be brutally honest Chris, we're not.
Sure, we have common interests but when it comes down to it, we are all competing businesses not trades unionists.
I detest the political attacks on good landlords as much as anyone but I'm dealing with them pretty well.
I've just signed a new tenant up with a 20% increase. I wouldn't have been able to do that if there were a healthy competition.

bob the builder

15:35 PM, 5th September 2019
About 7 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Annie Landlord at 04/09/2019 - 16:21
It's the link for Tenants not A/C CPD. They have rung me back now and directly e-mailed my prospects to confirm my details.

Annie Landlord

17:58 PM, 5th September 2019
About 7 months ago

Reply to the comment left by bob the builder at 05/09/2019 - 15:35
Glad you got it sorted out. It wasn't due to all the changes the NLA had to make for the GDPR was it? I know they removed a lot of personal info off their website in order to comply.

Annie Landlord

18:04 PM, 5th September 2019
About 7 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Larry Sweeney at 04/09/2019 - 22:22
You're right there. i have never been a member and would never contemplate becoming a member. I am a member of NLA and RLA-professional organisations that do not make puerile comments about anyone who disagrees with them, nor send them stupid private messages, nor use their association account to support the Brexit Party and JRM and make incredibly silly comments about JC (and I do not support any of those parties, before you ask).

bob the builder

13:58 PM, 6th September 2019
About 7 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Annie Landlord at 05/09/2019 - 17:58
Data migration done last w/e, not sure what for.

Possession Friend

23:54 PM, 6th September 2019
About 7 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Monty Bodkin at 05/09/2019 - 11:15
Monty, you may have missed the big word, ' IF ' they're fighting for Landlords.

Possession Friend

0:33 AM, 7th September 2019
About 7 months ago

Reply to the comment left by bob the builder at 06/09/2019 - 13:58
New I.T systems

Mick Roberts

11:08 AM, 7th September 2019
About 7 months ago

I'm not going on at u here as I know u support me in my posts, we should all support each others posts, yes question them sometimes, but generally we all want what's best for Landlords & tenants, easier u make it for tenant, easier u make it for Landlord.
We not all gonna' do what's perceived as the right way sometimes. And quite often, if u putting out 100 posts every 6 months, U r gonna' put out some contentious words that's gonna' make some people cringe. We all different. Gees, I ain't half upset some imbecile Councillors with my choice of words & public speaking, so much so, that one had to step sidewards & stop talking publicly for Licensing, as everything she said, I publicly ridiculed it. But to some, I was seen as foul mouthed Landlord who din't care about what I said. But I mean't well & if that was my way to get a result for Landlords, that was my way. What mattered in the end was the result.
I've spoke to Larry personally a number of times & he is the Daddy. He wants good. He wants what the rest of us want & that's to stop being bullied by Govt & Councils when most of us have done nothing wrong. He just don't say it as polite as the Queen would say it. But if that's how it is, that's how it is. Better for someone brash saying it & getting the odd result, than for someone nicey nicey & not solving Jack.
He has some intelligent smart experienced people on side.
He has a top Landlord understanding solicitor onside, is it Ian Narbeth? For free I believe. How many of u can say we've got that?
And other top peoples support too.
So whether there is 10 members, 20, 100, 1000, 10000 members, that's not important. What is important, we all have the same goal I'm a member & believe me, having me on side when it's against Licensing or Universal Credit is like having 10,000 Landlords that may send 1 letter a year & stand above the parapet once in a blue moon.
I alone has saved Nottingham Landlords approx £7 million pound in thumbturn locks. That's not a mistype. MILLION. A few million in floorplans. Lots of other things. Larry will could do the same for us. We sick of being took for greedy robbing cash cow Landlords, & if we had 100 Larry's in the UK, we may get some of this Govt Council Landlord bashing attacking stopped.
It's took years for the RLA to start actually ringing me & asking me stuff from the Horses mouth on the ground. Larry even though he's had a go at 'em has joined up with 'em in that recent Sec 21 meeting. And Larry only been shouting for the last year or so.
I wun't want to start this Landlord Alliance thing. Gees, the time & hassle involved in trying to get thousands of Landlords to see sense & contribute. What's the word apathy? Hard enough for me to get 10 bikers to Magaluf & their £60 deposit, never mind £100 ffrom Landlords that THINK they not gonna' get 'ote for their money.
Let's all get behind someone who in the end is doing it for US.
I bet when Mark & Neil started this site, their wives said 'U having a laugh, talking about private matters on a public forum? Ha ha not gonna' work'. Now it's the go to place to stop u making mistake that could cost u tens of thousands of pounds when putting the wrong word in your Section 21.
Anyone else listening, ask yourself £100 to join something someone that's fighting YOUR CAUSE. How much is it gonna' cost u for the next robbing bas___d thing this Govt or your local council can think of? Let's all join together.
Licensing alone has cost me & subsequently me tenants minimum £40,000 approx so far. And they have nothing ZERO in return. If I had maybe shouted up before they bought it in & had someone vocal & experienced like Larry on side, the result might be different.
Shelter are getting a bit of a backlash on Twitter for saying Landlords are out of order for charging more for tenants pets. We all told 'em this was gonna' happen if we couldn't insure the potential loss with extra deposit just in case. Now cause Shelter supported scrapping tenant fees ban, reduced deposit etc, ALL ALL tenants with pets are now paying more with no refund if ZERO damage. We can now say Told u so to Shelter. And it's people like Larry that made it clear to Shelter what could happen if they pursue these none understanding of the market policies, so much so that as time goes on, these thick no idea of business imbeciles may just come talk to us or think a bit more before they bring the next attack Landlord policy in.
We could all word things differently, Superb English great talker Mark could maybe put it better, but he's doing his thing, I'm doing my thing, you're doing your thing. Larry is doing SOMETHING for us, while some of us daren't say 'ote publicly. So next time Larry speaks out loud & we think Wow strong words, let's think Well at least someone is telling 'em cause if no one tells 'em, the next unwarranted bill could be just round the corner.

Mark Alexander

14:41 PM, 7th September 2019
About 7 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 07/09/2019 - 11:08
Well said Mick.

I support Larry for the same reasons you do.

He’s prepared to have a go, which is rare.

His core supporters are also a rare breed, many of which are the “inner-circle” of the Property118 campaign against S24 I believe.

I agree that we should stick together.

I am keen to know what the new NRLA policies will be on Selective Licensing etc. will they jointly support those schemes they have previously backed or will their unification result in unified support for Selective Licensing? This is a real question and concern of mine which they haven’t answered. I would much rather have answers to such fundamental questions than numbers of Members.

Larry’s agenda is clear, NRLA’s isn’t.

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