NLA/RLA Merger – Stand and fight with us

by Larry Sweeney

14:04 PM, 30th August 2019
About 10 months ago

NLA/RLA Merger – Stand and fight with us

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NLA/RLA Merger – Stand and fight with us

Last November the Alliance was formally launched. Around this time the NLA and RLA entered in to discussions to merge. On behalf of the Alliance, our steering committee and all our members nationwide I would like to offer our best wishes to the new NRLA .

The new merged association will still only represent less than 5% of all landlords and we represent an even smaller number. That is the reality. Those landlords who have paid dues to organisations be it ourselves or the NLA/RLA and others, deserve better. We along with our members are doing our best to fight back against the subversion of accountancy rules (s24) as well as dodgy non compliant selective licensing schemes.

Why on earth are 94% of the landlord community allowing this assault on the PRS. Despite being a new organisation the Alliance has driven the agenda for the past 12 months. We on this forum proposed a summit of all landlord bodies which culminated in the RLA (FPC) in London which meets again today.

The Alliance came about because Landlords will no longer accept being the whipping boy for the housing shortage. We save deposits, get mortgages, pay SDLT, lose tax relief, pay empty Council Tax, pay for a licence to rent our asset, and maintain the property. Yet the likes of Shelter who house absolutely nobody as well as ignorant politicians blame landlords for the plight of some tenants.

Worse Shelter want to remove our right to get rid of ASB tenants and rent defaulters and furthermore dictate to us who we should accept as tenants. Yet this very organisation time and again refuses to bond benefit tenants.

The Alliance says no. Enough is enough. Landlords, please join us (CLICK HERE) and help us to help you.

Our message to the new NRLA is as follows. We do not want to take more of your members, on the contrary we encourage all landlords to join one of our organisations now, but we must remember that landlords want an organisation with teeth. Landlords want an organisation which will fight tooth and nail against licensing schemes, which are nothing more than revenue raising scams and landlords do not want engagement with organisations such as Shelter which does nothing but undermine the PRS. Hopefully we will not see any more Shelter poetry.

In summary ,Good luck to the NRLA we hope you will stand with us and fight for the rights of all property owners and I firmly believe that a new approach by this body will gain them members. In the mean time the Alliance will continue the fightback.

In less than 12 months without selling any products, with only the revenue from membership, we have:

  • Stopped over 25 council prosecutions against landlords nationwide
  • We have exposed Shelter for the kind of set up it is
  • We oppose selective licensing and have uncovered several schemes which are non compliant
  • We have sent a delegation to a local authority who accepted our findings meaning we have protected landlords dealing with this authority
  • We have put proposals to the MoJ re possession procedures
  • We have taken part in the FPC and we oppose absolutely the abolition of S21

Our work continues apace.

The Alliance invites all landlord organisations to join us and call for Shelter to be disbanded. Imagine what a £60m cash injection could do to alleviate homelessness.

There were those who called us foolhardy to take on Shelter. The support we have on this front grows daily. Landlords write to Swinton insurance, pull your business. They sponsor Shelter. To the new Nrla we also say. Bin Shelter.

Together let’s protect property owners rights. If the new NRLA gets into the trenches with us and makes it clear that it will push back against the hate agenda, no ifs,no buts, not only will it retain members but it will grow. We want to see this as 94% of landlords are unrepresented.

It’s not a fight between us for members, what it should be is a collaboration to grow representation. Landlord apathy is the problem and it is most unfair to members of all our organisations that approx 6% of landlords pay dues to support bodies which fight for the PRS. Landlords need to get on board.

Landlords join the Alliance


Mark Alexander

21:04 PM, 2nd September 2019
About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Annie Landlord at 02/09/2019 - 18:14

From small acorns mighty oak trees grow.

Whether it’s 100, 500 or 1,000 I think you will agree ... it should be much larger.

The thing is, I think it will grow to have thousands of members, because landlords WANT an organization which doesn’t mince its words, works exclusive or its members and isn’t compromised by sponsorship offers

Larry Sweeney

23:14 PM, 2nd September 2019
About 10 months ago

Hi Mark,
We had Beales from Shelter state on national radio that the Alliance consisted of just a handful of landlords , we now have negative Annie contradicting her friend Beales and negative Annie has the Alliance at 100 members. You are correct. We have not enough members. Not by a long shot especially when approx 94% of landlords are not members of any landlord body. Our numbers will be disclosed in due course. Some would say that our numbers in less than a year are beyond belief. I state that we have a long way to go. They are fantastic but as per the percentages I quoted with respect to landlord membership of organisations ,there is so much work to be done. Anything less than 50%of landlords belonging to a representative body is a failure in my view hence so much to be done. Back to Beales and negative Annie. Sorry guys you are both wrong 🤣😎😎.

Possession Friend

23:33 PM, 2nd September 2019
About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Fiona Stacey at 31/08/2019 - 16:07Hi Fiona, - either way you cut it, and call 'No Shelter' anything you want , they are one of the main drivers behind the Govt for most of the Anti-Landlord legislation.
Did you see the Youtube clip of Shelter interviewing Esther Mcvey about trying to confirm BoJo's new Govt would maintain Theresa May's sell-out of Landlords ? [ abolishing Sec 21 ]
McVey actually stood up for Landlords ( shock - horror - glee, more like ) saying the vast majority were doing a good job. She did not go down too well with Shelter, as she wasn't singing their tune.
Shelter are distinct from most other Housing charities ( who are true charities ) as they, and Not Shelter, actually provide services for the Homeless, not just pay Solicitors to get Rent-evading Tenants off Possession claims.
So, I don't mind whatever anyone chooses to call Shelter - probably all descriptions fit !

Fiona Stacey

23:50 PM, 2nd September 2019
About 10 months ago

Fair point - we all dislike Shelter intensely but I just want the Alliance to reach as many possible members as they can. I was only commenting on the best way to word it to draw people in.

bob the builder

16:19 PM, 3rd September 2019
About 10 months ago

I have been in the NLA for 20 years and am accredited - they have a link on their d/b which shows these details which I use for marketing to show I am a responsible LL; they have now 'upgraded' their d/b and wiped out my details, calling them goes to voicemail with no return call on the day, messaging gets no response - I have ppl waiting to put down holding deposits but wanting to see these details first, it's making me look like some dodgy scammer. I think the days of the NLA being any use at all are over...

Michael Barnes

17:27 PM, 3rd September 2019
About 10 months ago

Why on earth are 94% of the landlord community allowing this assault on the PRS

Because they don't know and don't care.

They have one property that they put in the hands of an agent and they don't want to learn about the responsibilities and problems of being a landlord.

Mark Alexander

17:37 PM, 3rd September 2019
About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Michael Barnes at 03/09/2019 - 17:27

I think you’ve hit the nail in the head!

When they realize what’s happening, they are the people who will sell.

Annie Landlord

16:21 PM, 4th September 2019
About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by bob the builder at 03/09/2019 - 16:19
Hi, I've just logged into the NLA website and clicked on My CPD and my accreditation details came up straight away. Maybe there was a blip on the website on the day you tried? Do you use the Accredited Landlord logo? I have that on my business notepaper

Annie Landlord

16:42 PM, 4th September 2019
About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Larry Sweeney at 02/09/2019 - 23:14
I'm not contradicting anybody. Beales only comment about the alliance was about a year ago wasn't it? I was giving you the benefit of the doubt at 100. But maybe it's only 50? You could, just say how many members you have. The fact that you have ALWAYS tried to skirt the issue speaks volumes.

Possession Friend

22:02 PM, 4th September 2019
About 10 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Annie Landlord at 04/09/2019 - 16:42
I think you AND Larry are both Right, there needs to be far more Landlords in Associations, groups or guilds.
It doesn't matter what the name of the Association is, if they're fighting for Landlords, then we're all on the same side, surely ?
Look at the incessant rivalry between the 'Big Two' - who have finally realised the point I've made above and are joining their efforts instead of denigrating each other.
If someone wants to start a Landlord organisation with Two members, then I'm pleased for them, whether I intend to join them or not ( because they're on "Our" side.)
Landlords have enough enemies without fighting amongst themselves.

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