HMO landlords brace for chaos as EPC rules could tighten
1 year ago | 3 comments
EPC rating for HMO with bills included?
12:01 AM, 18th February 2025, 1 year ago
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Hi, I have been a landlord for over 40 years. I own HMOs and the property in question is a grade 2 listed, end terrace, 4 bed maisonette with an EPC of D. My HMOs have bills included with no restrictions on useage.
The property has a 5 year old combi boiler and the tenants have free access to heating and regularly open windows to air the property.
Historically they have used 11200kwh per annum for heating and hot water the EPC says that it will take 22000kwh to service this property. Any thoughts on this massive disparity?
The figures I’m using come directly from the energy bills, which provide estimated annual usage for both gas and electricity in kWh.
I’d also like to understand the government’s position when energy bills are included in the rent. Also, what are the rules for listed buildings?
Thanks in advance,
Sarah
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energy efficiency for HMOs, EPC rating D, EPC rating issues, EPC ratings for HMOs, government EPC policy, heating costs in HMOs, HMO bills included, landlord EPC compliance, listed building EPC, tenant heating bills
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Member Since February 2025 - Comments: 1
9:29 AM, 19th February 2025, About 1 year ago
A HMO is in essence the most energy efficient form of housing regardless of EPC rating as it creates only 1 co2 footprint for multiple unrelated individuals
Therefore should be entirely exempt
Member Since October 2022 - Comments: 204
9:46 AM, 19th February 2025, About 1 year ago
Reply to the comment left by Lawrie Madden at 18/02/2025 – 14:32
I’ve got several accounts with Octopus for starters.
Member Since February 2023 - Comments: 5
10:00 AM, 19th February 2025, About 1 year ago
Reply to the comment left by John Hirst at 18/02/2025 – 10:04
Hello John,
Thank you for the information.
Yes it is currently compliant but will not be in 2028 will it?
Member Since February 2023 - Comments: 5
10:06 AM, 19th February 2025, About 1 year ago
Reply to the comment left by Lawrie Madden at 18/02/2025 – 12:11
I use Octopus for all my properties now and at home and most of my family too have taken my recommendation. After years of dealing with pretty much every utility company I use Octopus because they answer the phone pretty quickly and actually do what they say they’re going to!
Member Since June 2023 - Comments: 14
10:34 AM, 20th February 2025, About 1 year ago
Reply to the comment left by sarah Toth at 19/02/2025 – 10:06
Hi
The tenants want an all inclusive to include water broadband etc hence why Octopus only do gas and electric
So difficult to get someone to do everything
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6:12 PM, 20th February 2025, About 1 year ago
Reply to the comment left by Lawrie Madden at 20/02/2025 – 10:34
Utility Warehouse package broadband, mobile and insurance with energy, although not water. They all have their specialisms tbf.
Member Since August 2013 - Comments: 124
10:04 PM, 22nd February 2025, About 1 year ago
Reply to the comment left by Lawrie Madden at 20/02/2025 – 10:34
Just use different suppliers, like you do for your own home. Companies offering all on combined package charge more – eg Utility Warehouse.
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2:37 PM, 24th February 2025, About 1 year ago
https://consult.communities.gov.uk/energy-performance-of-buildings/consultation-on-reforms-to-epb/