Electrical installation condition report?

Electrical installation condition report?

0:01 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago 20

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Hello, 99% of landlords have an Electrical Installation Conditions Report (EICR) in place, which determines the electrical condition of the property’s electrics. However, I am still going into properties that have older-type fuse boards – some even with rewireable fuses.

This goes down as a code 3 (needs improvement) but a code 3 does not give any timelines.

Older properties sometimes suffer if you put in a new Residual Current Device (RCD) fuse board since low resistance readings can cause an RCD to ‘nuisance trip.’

The only way around this is to put them in the none RCD side or rewire them.

At a bare minimum, I would like all power circuits RCD protected – what are Property118 thoughts on this?

Thanks,

Kevin


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Robert Shread

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9:52 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

I am a retired Electrician and a Landlord.
Nothing wrong with the old type consumer unit as long as it’s checked and safe.
These new regulations are an unscrupulous Electricians passport to rip People off. And I know first hand, when I told the Guy he was a con man and quoted the regs back to him he disappeared very quickly.

Ararat

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10:06 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

yes we had similar, electrician condemned with code 1's and said not safe to be occupied, wanted complete rewire and new board. Went through list of defects - took less than a morning to put right - cracked socket, blanks missing from unused conduit entries in metal consumer unit, adjusted flexible cable where not clamped in lighting connectors properly, section of trunking lid not secure, needed a couple of screws. all valid, but at first glance EICR seemed to condemn the whole property. the sort of thing that when i used to do testing, i would put right as i went - easier than filling in the form with the faults!

Robert Shread

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10:08 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

These People should be named and shamed.

Chris

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10:11 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

I have been surprised at the response by some electricians at how they classify work and maybe they are after work or maybe they are just covering their own backs so there is no come back and we cant blame them for that. I have found a healthy discussion between the pair of us with Google has resulted in agreements.

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10:32 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Robert Shread at 01/06/2023 - 09:52
I agree, I have had the same experience on more than one occasion. And it's cost me thousands. One of the reasons I put the rent up and of no benefit to my tenants.

Phill Holland

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10:34 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

Now this is an interesting subject.
At the point of required compliance we owned 20 properties. From memory 3 properties had cartridge or rewire fuses. Several were missing RCD protection.
All properties now have RCD and 'modern' circuit breakers. From memory we spent approx £7k. Labour, materials, testing and certification.
More importantly the process revealed 5 properties with a potential risk to life, 4 of which were tenant induced. including a most creative kitchen upgrade with 3 additional sockets connected by flymo flex with no CPC (Earth) and a cellar 'ring main' powered by 1mm cable and fused at 32 amps.
Hidden behind the significant cost is a silent relief that we actually found an affordable way to bring everything to a known and acceptable standard. And we have a modern baseline. I don't know many people who can rewire a fuse or swap a cartridge.
My question really is, when will the requirement be passed onto the owner occupier sector, as all the properties were historically owner occupiers, or it's the occupier who created the problem.
Maybe an issue outside of this forum.
As for the cost, we found a super guy who charged by the hour, educated me on what I could and should do and genuinely was a credit to his profession. He may have been 110% by the book. but I'm glad he was.

Beaver

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10:42 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Phill Holland at 01/06/2023 - 10:34
I think you were lucky to find your guy who genuinely was a credit to his profession.

Kevin Walsh

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10:53 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Robert Shread at 01/06/2023 - 09:52
You are correct , it is within the regs , but i think no r.c.d , the consumer is under protected . I did an eicr In Liverpool , and the tenant were asylum seekers . Old fuse board , no r.c d. Cover missing off cooker connection unit ( live terminals on show ) . And a broken bathroom light . So tenant got an extension lead , wrapped it round original light with a lamp in it . Tenant had little kids . One wrong move , and the light would have been in the bath , whilst they were bathing their kids !!!!!!! Landlord got zone 2 bathroom light fitted , new r.c fuseboard

Kevin Walsh

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10:54 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Chris at 01/06/2023 - 10:11
End of the day , all the work has to be spot on , and certified

Kevin Walsh

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10:56 AM, 1st June 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Beaver at 01/06/2023 - 10:32
At least , all your tenants are electrically safe !

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