Electrical Installation Condition Report Query?

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9:12 AM, 26th May 2020
About 6 months ago

Electrical Installation Condition Report Query?

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Electrical Installation Condition Report Query?

I last had an Electrical Installation Condition Report (EICR) done in July 2018 (17th Edition), with a recommended 5 years before the next inspection.

I have a two story HMO licence. I have 5 student tenants on one AST that are due to start their second year with me on 1st July 2020, so its a new tenancy.

Do I need a new EICR under the new legislation at 18th Edition, or can I use the existing valid one?

I’ve also been told by an electrician that a new EICR is needed at the start of each new tenancy not 5 yearly.  That would be almost £300 annually- as opposed to 5 yearly.

Its going to difficult enough to do with Lockdown this year.

Many thanks

Chris


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Neil Patterson

9:16 AM, 26th May 2020
About 6 months ago

Hi Chris there is a subtle difference for HMOs, but you are starting a new tenancy.

See >> https://www.property118.com/rla-writes-to-ministry-of-housing-over-electrical-safety-loophole/

RLA: "The changes, due to come into force from June this year, will immediately remove the obligation for landlords to carry out electrical safety checks in Houses of Multiple Occupation (HMOs). The obligation under the new rules will not apply until a tenancy is renewed or April 2021, whichever comes first."

Neil Patterson

9:20 AM, 26th May 2020
About 6 months ago

Please also see Government guidance >> https://www.property118.com/new-electrical-checks-and-safety-standards-for-landlords/

"Duties of private landlords in relation to electrical installations

3.—(1) A private landlord(7) who grants or intends to grant a specified tenancy must—

(a)ensure that the electrical safety standards are met during any period when the residential premises(8) are occupied under a specified tenancy;

(b)ensure every electrical installation in the residential premises is inspected and tested at regular intervals by a qualified person; and

(c)ensure the first inspection and testing is carried out—

(i)before the tenancy commences in relation to a new specified tenancy; or

(ii)by 1st April 2021 in relation to an existing specified tenancy.

(2) For the purposes of sub-paragraph (1)(b) “at regular intervals” means—

(a)at intervals of no more than 5 years; or

(b)where the most recent report under sub-paragraph (3)(a) requires such inspection and testing to be at intervals of less than 5 years, at the intervals specified in that report.

(3) Following the inspection and testing required under sub-paragraphs (1)(b) and (c) a private landlord must—

(a)obtain a report from the person conducting that inspection and test, which gives the results of the inspection and test and the date of the next inspection and test;

(b)supply a copy of that report to each existing tenant of the residential premises within 28 days of the inspection and test;

(c)supply a copy of that report to the local housing authority within 7 days of receiving a request in writing for it from that authority;

(d)retain a copy of that report until the next inspection and test is due and supply a copy to the person carrying out the next inspection and test; and

(e)supply a copy of the most recent report to—

(i)any new tenant of the specified tenancy to which the report relates before that tenant occupies those premises; and

(ii)any prospective tenant within 28 days of receiving a request in writing for it from that prospective tenant.

(4) Where a report under sub-paragraph (3)(a) indicates that a private landlord is or is potentially in breach of the duty under sub-paragraph (1)(a) and the report requires the private landlord to undertake further investigative or remedial work, the private landlord must ensure that further investigative or remedial work is carried out by a qualified person within—

(a)28 days; or

(b)the period specified in the report if less than 28 days,

starting with the date of the inspection and testing.

(5) Where paragraph (4) applies, a private landlord must—

(a)obtain written confirmation from a qualified person that the further investigative or remedial work has been carried out and that—

(i)the electrical safety standards are met; or

(ii)further investigative or remedial work is required;

(b)supply that written confirmation, together with a copy of the report under sub-paragraph (3)(a) which required the further investigative or remedial work to each existing tenant of the residential premises within 28 days of completion of the further investigative or remedial work; and

(c)supply that written confirmation, together with a copy of the report under sub-paragraph (3)(a) which required the further investigative or remedial work to the local housing authority within 28 days of completion of the further investigative or remedial work.

(6) Where further investigative work is carried out in accordance with paragraph (4) and the outcome of that further investigative work is that further investigative or remedial work is required, the private landlord must repeat the steps in paragraphs (4) and (5) in respect of that further investigative or remedial work.

(7) For the purposes of sub-paragraph (3)(e)(ii) a person is a prospective tenant in relation to residential premises if that person—

(a)requests any information about the premises from the prospective landlord for the purpose of deciding whether to rent those premises;

(b)makes a request to view the premises for the purpose of deciding whether to rent those premises; or

(c)makes an offer, whether oral or written, to rent those premises."

Hedley

10:43 AM, 26th May 2020
About 6 months ago

I have an AST with an existing tenancy and where I had an electrical test and updating to current regulations in December 2018. Assuming there is no change of tenancy, do the new regulations mean that I have to have another test by April 2021, or can I wait until 2023 (5 years from the last test).

Rob Crawford

10:49 AM, 26th May 2020
About 6 months ago

Hi Chris, with 5 tenants your HMO comes under mandatory licensing and will be subject to the licensing conditions enforced by your local authority. This new 2020 regulation is also enforced by your local authority. We all know the regulations are poorly written so I suggest you discuss this with your LA. I am pretty sure existing EICRs will be deemed as valid.

Rob Crawford

11:07 AM, 26th May 2020
About 6 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Hedley at 26/05/2020 - 10:43
Same as my reply to Chris, get your LA, the enforcing authority for all this to issue their interpretation of what the 2020 regulations require. It's the only way forward in my view.

Andrew

9:53 AM, 3rd August 2020
About 4 months ago

I've just interviewed an electrician and Landlord and debunked some of the myths in this thread - you can find the video here - https://youtu.be/DFgK3uwkLwM

Let me know if you find it useful

Andrew

9:56 AM, 3rd August 2020
About 4 months ago

I've just interviewed an electrician and Landlord and debunked some of the myths in this thread - you can find the video here - https://youtu.be/DFgK3uwkLwM

Let me know if you find it useful


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