Open Letter To Grant Shapps and the BBC – Clause 24

Open Letter To Grant Shapps and the BBC – Clause 24

22:17 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 6 years ago 66

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I’ve shared this email to my MP, Grant Shapps, on another thread where a prominent poster has suggested that I post it on a new discussion. Open Letter To Grant Shapps and the BBC - Clause 24

I emailed Grant Shapps on 7th January 2016. He acknowledged, but I received no further reply. I emailed him yesterday morning giving him the chance to reply, and informed him that I would be sending it to the BBC today (22/01/16).

“Dear Grant

I voted Tory at the last election. I’ve always considered myself a classic Tory voter, although I have voted for other parties in two elections: Blair, unfortunately wooed me first time round, and the coalition was partly down to me. Other than that, I’ve always voted Tory.

I’ve always found politics a pretty frustrating field where anyone can promise what they want and do something else and not be held to account. A manifesto can only be relied upon as a hugely inflated list of things a party will dream up in order to attract voters. Why on earth we haven’t a system in place which renders a manifesto something like a contractual offer where there are penalties if promises are broken is beyond me. It’s no wonder the electorate is so utterly fed-up with politicians and all parties. Nothing a politician or party says can be relied upon, which makes a mockery of democracy. I choose who to vote for based on what they tell me they stand for and what is written in their manifesto.

Since the last election, I have regretted my vote more than at any other time in my life, for both local and national elections. I took time to read the summary manifestos for the three parties I would consider voting for so that I could make the best choice for me, my family and the nation. No one party was going to offer everything to suit me, but as usual, the Tories were going to allow me to continue to work hard, invest in property for my future pension provisions as a sideline, and would probably handle the economy better than any other party.

The first decision George Osborne made which angered me was the abolition of tax credits for working people. I don’t get tax credits, despite being a single parent due to me just about breaking into the 40% tax bracket, but one thing I’m very happy for my taxes to be spent on is help for those who strive to work to make ends meet rather than staying on full welfare. I cannot for the life of me work out how this was ever considered by the Tory party. Aren’t you supposed to be encouraging people back to work? The most sickening part was the disingenuous clap-trap being spouted by GO and the party of how this would be set-off against increases in minimum wage. Many of these people were struggling anyway, how one earth would an immediate cut in tax credits be alleviated by increase in minimum wage in a few years? How many people on tax credits are above the minimum wage anyway?

The welfare slashes to the Disabled and Elderly are sickening. I don’t know enough about these to comment.

As mentioned, I’m a single parent with a job. Since I don’t have a pension, 4 years ago I entered into property investment via let-to-buy and downgrading my living arrangements. The following year I moved again, and let out a second home. This has stretched me financially, but no more than I had planned and it is all part of my strategy to provide for myself in the future, and my son through university.

I have excellent tenants in both properties. One family have been with me for just over two years. They are in their 50s and their grown up son lives with them. They have good jobs – she is a nurse, he is a plumber. I believe the son is an electrician. They moved into my house after having their home repossessed. I was extremely nervous about taking them on, but luckily, it has proved to be a very good decision. They love their home, and I’m very happy to have them looking after it. I have not increased their rent since they’ve been here as I had no reason to do so. My costs hadn’t increased significantly, and a good tenant is worth looking after and hanging on to. Unfortunately, due to the tax changes being brought in, I will be notifying them of a rent rise this month, which will reflect rent rises by corporate LLs in the area, approximately 10% for the period. In the notice of rent rise, I will be explaining exactly why I’m doing this. Every single LL I know will be doing the same. With just two properties, since I am in the 40% tax band, and I will now be paying tax on £19K on mortgages per year, I will have to keep rents bang up to the maximum the market permits. Since demand for rental is so high, and my properties are lovely, I foresee no problems with retaining or replacing tenants if they chose to move due to rent rises.

My second tenants are new to me since August. They seem lovely, and were desperate to move into my home and I was delighted they cleared all the checks and referencing. They were worried as they had some concern about their credit history due to some missed CC payments. I don’t know why they choose to rent, but they were at their last rented property for 23 years, and only chose to move as the LL was selling. They have good jobs – she works in a hospice, and he is a football scout. I had no intention of increasing their rent as I want them to stay with me as long as possible, but I will now be increasing rents annually in accordance with the Housing Act.

Do you think either of my tenants could secure mortgages if they wanted to?

I hope I will be able to make the finances work after clause 24 through rent increases, and possible remortgaging (I certainly can’t work any harder), but if not then I will need to evict my tenants and sell my properties. That’s two families evicted and me with no pension provision for the future. That really was not what I expected as the outcome of me voting Tory.

I know directly, and indirectly through social media, hundreds of LLs, and we are all good LLs, intent on looking after our tenants, complying with continual changes in legislation, and paying our taxes on income (profit) fairly.

No LL I know understands the logic behind C24. What particularly puzzles me is that Tories traditionally support those who want to work hard and provide for themselves, as well as encouraging entrepreneurialism. After all, we all know that stimulating the micro economy boosts the macro economy.

But what sickens me (and I’m not overemphasising that) is the absolute discrimination in favour of the wealthy elite and large corporations. This is what the Tories now stand for! Corporations are exempt from the policy as are those with more than 15 properties! I’m speechless! What formula was used to calculate the 15 property exemption number? Is that the minimum number of properties the average Tory MP owns? Certainly Osborne and his family who have benefitted very well in their property investments from some Maverick tax avoidance.

In summary, I’d like to point out, through my experience and knowledge of the sector, the effects of c24:

  1. Rents WILL rise. The RICS estimates by 25% by 2020. I think that’s a fair average. Many LLs like myself with good tenants may introduce higher rent rises than that to catch up with the market.
  2. Tenants will be evicted as some LLs will sell some properties. This may be simply because they choose to get out of the game since it is no longer profitable, or because being taxed on turnover will actually push them into a deficit. These LLs were operating on tight margins anyway, and interest rises may have eventually hit them, but it’s still stress and upheaval for tenants.
  3. Corporations will buy up rental stock sold off from the PRS. Corporate LLs will absolutely maximise profits and increase rents as much as the market permits.
  4. Hundreds of thousands of PAYE workers like me will chose to opt out of the market as it is no longer a viable pension investment option. That means hundreds of thousands of people without pension provisions in the future. Further pressure on that deafeningly loud tick of the pension time bomb that this country will very soon be unable to ignore, like your government is doing.
  5.  There will be NO increase in housing stock. But there will be a further shortage of housing for families like my tenants who cannot buy as they are unable to secure mortgages. What is to happen to them? Temporary accommodation or LA social housing? We don’t have enough of that, and the council certainly couldn’t afford it. There will be a catastrophic effect on the social housing sector directly as a result of this policy and its decimation of the private rental sector. 
  6. The loss of the next election for Tories. Unless there are fundamental changes, and a return to the core values and policies of the Tory party, I will not be voting for you again. Of the estimated 3m LLs in this country, I’d say a good 50% of them must be straight forward Tory voters. Not anymore. The LL community it absolutely outraged at clause 24. Many many have said that they will never vote Tory again. I chose Tory last time as they offered the best for me and the nation; now you attack everyone including the poor, the sick, the elderly and middle income core Tories like me. The only people the Tories look after are the extremely wealthy and big business. The Bullingdon Club Party.

I understand the need to steady the housing market, and make it easier, or even possible for first time buyers to get onto the housing ladder, but clause 24 is not going to do either. It’s so badly thought out, in fact, I struggle to believe it was thought through at all. The only benefit it will bring is to the wealthy elite and big corporations due to the competitive advantage it will give them through tax advantages over the little players like me.

Yours sincerely,

Rachel Hodge
ex-Tory voter”


by Rachel Hodge

21:42 PM, 24th January 2016, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "r d" at "24/01/2016 - 20:58":

r d

I'm not exactly sure what the final draft will be, but certainly it's been discussed on many forums that exemption criteria could be Ltd companies / corporations and those owning in excess of 15 properties.

Changeable though, I'm sure! Google it 🙂

by James Fraser

12:22 PM, 25th January 2016, About 6 years ago

Hi chaps.

The 15 properties thing is not exempt from clause 24. There was some talk from the govt that if you had more than 15 properties you'd be exempt from the new stamp duty rates, but the govt are now saying the only way to be exempted from the new stamp duty is if you are buying at least 15 properties in one go! Who on earth does THAT?!

by r d

12:29 PM, 25th January 2016, About 6 years ago

Hi All,

Perhaps I am looking in the wrong place!

Can anyone please direct me to any literature that states owning 15+ properties makes you exempt from Clause 24/Tax on mortgage payments/revenue.

As far as I have read, owning 15+ properties allows you to potentially avoid the hike in Stamp Duty only?

Many thanks for your help

by Dr Rosalind Beck

12:59 PM, 25th January 2016, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "r d" at "25/01/2016 - 12:29":

Hi rd. This only relates to the stamp duty hike and is only being considered in the consultation. I own more than 15 BTL properties and will be completely stung by C24. There is no exemption whatsoever for 'private' unincorporated landlords - but an incorporated one with just one property will not be subject to C24. Hope this clears it up for you - although it won't be what you want to hear.

by Gareth Wilson

14:04 PM, 25th January 2016, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "James Fraser" at "25/01/2016 - 12:22":

I know! I know!

Companies who've donated fifty grand to the Conservative Party.

by John Walker

17:23 PM, 26th January 2016, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "22/01/2016 - 22:27":

If we don't keep harassing our MPs they will blithely continue to follow the party line and support GO on his disastrous course. If all 300 or so Tory MPs get a wall of emails pointing out the patently obvious from actual or potential Tory supporters and voters, then maybe their sense of self-preservation will cast doubts into GO's mind.

by The Property Man

8:46 AM, 27th January 2016, About 6 years ago

Am I right in thinking that if you own more than 15 properties you are not effected by clause 24 ???????

by Rachel Hodge

8:50 AM, 27th January 2016, About 6 years ago

Apparently that's not the case. Was in the consultation (what consultation there was) but not in the final draft.

by Chris Byways

8:54 AM, 27th January 2016, About 6 years ago

No, you are wrong, the rules are being "consulted on". Not in any meangfull way mind you. GO has decided, and will "consult", only because he has to, but will not listen, only to learn how to overcome the problems thrown up.

You MAY be able to avoid the new SDLT if you but 15 at one time, but there are countless other hoops you may have to jump through. Like donating more than £50k to Tories, and be incorporated, and ..........

Edit Rachael and I posted simultaneously!

by kay Chas

13:32 PM, 29th January 2016, About 6 years ago

I am one of the army of small Landlords , and have been letting property since 1996 when the first non commercial BTL Mortgages became available.
I think that many small Landlords will think, as I did, that the Chancellor was trustworthy, and Tory, so when he said that only those who are currently dodging the payment of the 40% tax band would be affected by cl24, quick calculation thought "that's not us", so filed away in memory as "not relevant" to us? So many others will have too?
After reading the significant posts by this learned membership, I too now realise what a sham shadow of Margaret Thatchers Tory party this is!
It is truly reverted back to the Tory party much despised by erstwhile working classes , seen to be cosseting and favouring big businesses at the expense of the small man. This party will soon be despised by the middle class voters too. Skewing dangerously to the far far right. No wonder Corbyn, as small and hapless as he is, has surprised everyone.
The Government is not listening.
The petition you mention is now closed unfortunately. The government has responded. I think that we are fighting an uphill battle. We small landlords are a soft target. And , unfortunately, Governmental minds seem set.
It is significant that we the BTL community, have been targeted since the arrival of new "Pension pot Landlords".
Having opened the door to New Pensioners' ex Annuity pots, so that they were free to invest where they liked. It must have surprised the Financiers to find that they were investing in BTL in numbers obviously unacceptable . So the plan is to make BTL less profitable and more risky, maybe in the hopes that money will be steered back into Stocks and Shares directly or via savings plans?
Trouble is, we long term small Landlords , are caught up in the Current.
I applaud the efforts of all who are trying to publicise and educate the uninvolved and therefore complacent, about the effects of this unfair legislation, wishing you success.
Thank you

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