Carbon monoxide alarms - balanced flue boilers?

Carbon monoxide alarms – balanced flue boilers?

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9:16 AM, 22nd September 2022, 4 years ago 15

Hi Guys and Gals,

Can’t find a clear answer to “is a CO2 detector required for a modern balanced flue combination gas boiler installed in a purpose-built cupboard on a landing?”.

Some say yes and some say no.

The house in question, 10 years old, has a gas hob/electric oven in kitchen and gas boiler as above.

The flue goes up to the loft and exits out of house in the loft.

Thanks,

Dennis


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  • Member Since December 2021 - Comments: 43

    10:28 AM, 22nd September 2022, About 4 years ago

    Why risk anything, just put one in?
    They’re like £20.

  • Member Since September 2018 - Comments: 3508 - Articles: 5

    11:44 AM, 22nd September 2022, About 4 years ago

    just put one up. done.

  • Member Since July 2019 - Comments: 8

    11:46 AM, 22nd September 2022, About 4 years ago

    The answer is simple

    It is now the law

    But it also is sensible and should have been done years ago as IF the flue breaks or comes apart then combustion gasses can (and often do) escape into the room.

    That and sometimes there is the possibility of leaks within the cloister and blowback through open windows.

    Anyway now a legal Requirement under the recently revised Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarms regulations with a £5000 or so fine (more if it’s an HMO probably)

    Phil Turtle
    Compliance Director
    Landlord Licensing & Defence
    https://landlordsdefence.co.uk

  • Member Since January 2015 - Comments: 1435 - Articles: 1

    1:06 PM, 22nd September 2022, About 4 years ago

    You can buy a CO2 detector unit for less than £20 and tax deductible so why quibble

  • Member Since July 2019 - Comments: 8

    2:26 PM, 22nd September 2022, About 4 years ago

  • Member Since September 2022 - Comments: 192

    3:10 PM, 22nd September 2022, About 4 years ago

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aico-Carbon-Monoxide-Lithium-Battery/dp/B00OHOH8HS
    For the cost of £26.25 this is an excellent CO alarm.
    Available at other stores

    I would put one in the kitchen with the Gas Hob just in case as well

  • Member Since June 2022 - Comments: 111

    3:20 PM, 22nd September 2022, About 4 years ago

    Reply to the comment left by Phil at 22/09/2022 – 14:26
    The purpose-built cupboard is not a habitable or non habitable Room it’s just a cupboard to house the boiler therefore the habitable room is the Landing so you do absolutely need a CO Detector.

    If the boiler was located under the stairs which had a door then you could argue that that space is not Habitable.

  • Member Since March 2017 - Comments: 317

    9:00 PM, 22nd September 2022, About 4 years ago

    The existing smoke/fire alarms are wired which are obviously much better than battery ones. A compatible wired alarm with CO2 is £79.00. The tenants already have a portable battery CO2 detector. As a Landlord we have no control over the proper use of a battery one which does make a bit of a nonsense of it all legally. In the past I have let to students who take out batteries for many obvious reasons, mostly burnt toast, and don’t replace them. I’ve recently replaced all the wired alarms as 10 year date on them expired. Having been told by a gas engineer and read elsewhere not needed with modern boilers with all the built in safety features thought I’d ask the question here. Thanks for replies, will replace with a wired one.

  • Member Since September 2015 - Comments: 222

    10:06 AM, 23rd September 2022, About 4 years ago

    What’s all this about CO2 (carbon dioxide) detectors?

  • Member Since March 2017 - Comments: 317

    11:50 AM, 23rd September 2022, About 4 years ago

    Reply to the comment left by Gunga Din at 23/09/2022 – 10:06
    Ha Ha, it’s my age, slip of tongue, bet it won’t be long before the Gov insists we Landlords must have one though and find a “good” reason for it.

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