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by Mick Roberts
Police interceptors wouldn’t fine me £7,000 for no MOT, so why would the government fine me for having an MOT?
Driving without a valid MOT can result in a standard £100 fixed penalty, although the fine can be up to £1,000. By comparison, certain PRS database breaches can result in penalties of up to £7,000.
Yes, I can have the boiler certificate, EPC, EICR, all perfectly legal, but woe betide me if I make an admin error and forget to send it to the government, because that could land me a £7,000 fine.
That’s a potential penalty up to seven times higher than the maximum court fine for driving without an MOT.
We all know that cars with no MOT can be dangerous and can kill someone. That’s why, when you MOT your car, the result automatically goes onto a database. The police can check it instantly while they’re driving behind you.
Yet apparently houses are more dangerous. Why? Because the government says so.
If they think a £7,000 fine is justified for not putting your boiler certificate on the database, even though you have actually got the certificate, then surely a car with no MOT should be fined more than £7,000, shouldn’t it?
You can have the boiler certificate. You can have everything legal. You’ve just messed up on your admin because all these new retrospective rules are overtaking you.
If this is so serious that it justifies a £7,000 fine, why aren’t the boiler certificates put onto a database automatically?
Now, with EPCs, we all know they do automatically get put onto the government website.
Those who have already uploaded these documents to councils that have selective licensing schemes, why do they have to do the same again?
Because it’s the same councils that have been put in charge of administering the database scheme, and the same councils that will be fining landlords for not uploading the certificate.
Do the government not get what they are doing with these constant threats?
Landlords are packing up. We’re not taking risky, vulnerable tenants. We’re neglecting the house and the tenant because the government and councils are taking our time and funds that would have gone on the house.
Do the government not get that this is an extra £6 a month on top of the rent?
And before you say, “well, it’s only a bit more admin,” read all the changes landlords have faced since 2015 and then tell me the government aren’t beating the landlord down and why rents are so expensive. I’ve written more about this here.
The rogue landlords are still going to ignore this like they have done with selective licensing.
Article by Mick Roberts, one of Nottingham’s largest landlords to house benefit tenants.
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9:48 AM, 6th October 2026, About 6 days ago
You can’t appeal to a bully for fairness or sense.
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11:57 AM, 6th October 2026, About 5 days ago
Not that I am proposing it but you getting a lower fine for beating your tenant up than for issuing an old form AST or as Mick says messing up the admin with a certificate for the property.
Penalties for landlords are wholly disproportionate to the offence.
This Government and the last allegedly Conservative (Ed. Sorry insufficient evidence of conservatism to make the charge stick) Government would probably deny they hate private landlords. However, they act as if they do.
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12:56 PM, 6th October 2026, About 5 days ago
Reply to the comment left by Ian Narbeth at 06/10/2026 – 11:57
And for stabbing someone.
Chop someone’s hand off, the fine would be less.
Drunk driving the fine is less.
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1:23 PM, 6th October 2026, About 5 days ago
You’re right about neglecting the house due to fees, admin and fines.
I was planning on replacing the bathroom at one of my small hmos but then found that I suddenly needed to pay a new licence fee on the 2 small hmos in that borough that I have owned and let without issue for 30 years. Well tons of admin later, hundreds on fire assessments that state the obvious and a further £2800 in fees and I have put the bathroom on hold for a bit to let my bank account recharge.
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2:33 PM, 6th October 2026, About 5 days ago
Reply to the comment left by JamesB at 06/10/2026 – 13:23
Yes u say it perfectly, what does the Govt not understand about this. Yes they get them that were maybe hiding or not doing stuff, but now the 80% who were doing stuff, no longer do the stuff. I used to do 6-12 kitchens a year & so on. It’s not even 1 now, u give up, feel deflated, like u say bank funds gone on Council admin. Tenant loses.
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2:55 PM, 6th October 2026, About 5 days ago
Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 06/10/2026 – 14:33
I don’t think that the labour landlord database will get the people who were hiding or not doing stuff: I think that the landlords who don’t follow the rules will continue to take cash just as they always did. Central and local government mainly target houses that are predominantly already safe and the landlords who are (or were) already doing the right thing by being good landlords. Good tenants pay for that in the form of higher rents…marginal tenants pay for that by being unhouseable.
But yes, I think you are absolutely right that the government is creating a climate where landlords are less likely to invest and you are also right that this does not benefit tenants at all.
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2:55 PM, 6th October 2026, About 5 days ago
Reply to the comment left by Downsize Government at 06/10/2026 – 09:48
No, you cannot.
They are getting to be a dictator like the Chinese regime.
The government themselves don’t do it correctly, as they make a lot of errors, like Starmer employing Mendelson before correct clearings were completed. Nobody charged him anything at all. That was a national disaster.
The government officials cannot manage any social housing either. We don’t know if they have the test and certificates done on time or will place them on the database.
No one is speaking out and getting the government to be accountable for anything. They are causing more risk to the country than the landlords are.
Noone takes them to task.
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3:24 PM, 6th October 2026, About 5 days ago
Reply to the comment left by Beaver at 06/10/2026 – 14:55
Yes u right the bad Landlords still hide. Although I did have mate ring me, been renting flat (rents out 2 flats) since 2013 no tax no nothing Oops & the database has got him scared into now coming clean.
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3:28 PM, 6th October 2026, About 5 days ago
Reply to the comment left by Tiger at 06/10/2026 – 14:55
That’s it, why isn’t someone talking loud on the News. £7000 fine for just not sending in the legally compliant certificate to the new trumped up retrospective database.
Some of us can’t cope any more, one new thing after another, constant time, hours, £’s, admin, more straws breaking the camels back.
Ok Govt u made us pack up, u made us force the sale on the tenant. We didn’t want the house anyway, only keeping it for tenant, but u pushing us too far.
We genuinely (if got too many houses & getting older) can’t keep up with the new laws/regs. They overtaking us. I would never have housed this many homeless Benefit people years ago had this rules been in. You’ve forced these rules on tenants that didn’t want them.
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3:39 PM, 6th October 2026, About 5 days ago
Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 06/10/2026 – 15:28
All absolutely right: I stopped taking working-age benefits tenants two decades ago and haven’t taken any since because IF it turns out the tenant isn’t eligible for benefits the benefits office can get the money back off me but as the landlord I don’t have any powers to check eligibility. The clauses in labour’s Renters Rights Act concerning discrimination against tenants with children and tenants on benefits don’t make any difference because the Act itself makes the situation even worse for these two groups of tenants than it was before and now you also don’t have the fall-back of no-fault evictions when everything goes wrong even though what’s gone wrong is not your fault as the landlord.
We already had anti-discrimination legislation protecting race, age, gender etc. Labour didn’t fix anything that needed fixing….instead, the government just made the situation far, far worse for tenants and all that landlords can do in response is to sell, evict to develop or put family members in, or raise rents.