Tenant said it would cost thousands to get her out?

Tenant said it would cost thousands to get her out?

9:40 AM, 7th May 2021, About 3 years ago 29

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I had an EICR assessment in October, which stated the property required rewiring. Since then there have multiple failed attempts to get this work started and completed. The tenant had Covid-19 multiple times, then her boyfriend has had it, then a boyfriend’s relative bereavement, relative has changed (the boyfriend is not a tenant), then the work was started, and she refused to let them back in after the second day.

On the 27.12.20 she sent a cheery text saying you can now start the work and was rude, aggressive and intimidating when I said I couldn’t because the electrician was booked up.

The work finally continued on Tuesday and today she has denied access again. We have followed procedure with warnings which means she is on the final stage but has made it clear that it will cost us thousands to get her out. Any advice on how I proceed. The electrician has been really good but at the end of the day he has a business to run.

I have already had to pay extra costs when work was booked and not carried out. This is a common theme with the tenant, she reports issues/repairs which we respond to immediately and then refuses access.


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Mick Roberts

15:57 PM, 9th May 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Paul landlord at 08/05/2021 - 22:23
Paul Landlord,
U sound very similar to me:
I've been in the business for over 30 years with upwards of 40 properties and although this stuff has always been 'just another day at the office', I'm now getting fed up and each time a property comes vacant the consideration of the sale of it comes up too- something as being hardcore landlord I never thought I would do.

U may even next year think to start selling. Once another Anti-Landlord Reg comes in.
I've sold several now last few years. All cause of Govt & Council interference that they think is helping the current tenant, but in fact making it much more expensive for them & making the likes of us all be super selective who we take next time. My current tenants can't move any more, no one will take them & I thought I could start selling through natural wastage-People leaving of their own accord. I'm in a trap, can't be going to prison when I'm 60 & 70 cause I've fallen foul of some new rule/law/reg the Govt/Council has just bought in that me nor tenant din't sign up to 24 years ago.

For me, I started out as most, to make a few quid & a better life when older. It's now turned into How can I keep this tenant in their home of 24 years against all the odds.
It's like I've gone without for years & got loads of savings plans that are ready ie. houses, yet I can't get at 'em now cause the tenants are living there & I'm not one for asking tenant to leave who's done nothing wrong. However it is becoming impossible the demands & constant changes. Never mind getting started on Universal Credit & Selective Licensing.

I've just commented on this person on Twitter this morning who sums it up:
Landlords pushed into a corner with new government rules protecting the tenants
Tenants were never forced to sign the contract ,after viewing a property !

Us Landlords are constantly having to sign a new thing again that wasn't in when we put the tenant in or bought the house.

I can vouch for Chris at Possession Friend. He knows his stuff & can tell u all sorts u won't be aware of should u have to issue notice.

steve p

23:10 PM, 9th May 2021, About 3 years ago

I wonder if its dangerous enough the LA could deem the property not fit for habitation with the refusal of letting an electrician in to carry out the work, this would mean the tenant would have to leave. Save eviction proceedings..

Although I understand its a lot of disruption for the tenant frankly there are not enough properties out there an a who load of tenants that want properties, unfortunately though even when the ban ends there is going to be a massive backlog so yes it will cost thousands to get her out.

I would say though if you have evidence from your electrician that he has tried on multiple occasions (I was told 3) to do the works and the tenant has refused then you have met your obligation, just inform the LA. If they want to press the issue they can by saying the property is not safe, if they wont then its the tenants risk.

Dylan Morris

23:17 PM, 9th May 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by steve p at 09/05/2021 - 23:10
All the rewiring work has been done Steve. Property now fully compliant with satisfactory EICR........ apparently.

Luke P

0:07 AM, 10th May 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by steve p at 09/05/2021 - 23:10
When I engaged the LA recently about one of ours that required a full rewire and with an awkward tenant (hoping they’d move her out, as she’s also scruffy), they did everything possible not to as they had nowhere to house her. They were ‘satisfied’ as long as the smoke alarms were working, recognising we’d done our bit and it was the tenant’s difficult behaviour preventing us doing the job.

They also said they won’t be enforcing for some time to come (at least until next year) because they won’t have emergency accommodation and cannot get involved with a known unsafe property, yet leave the tenant in situ.

Judith Wordsworth

0:32 AM, 10th May 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 09/05/2021 - 15:57
I've had enough, though not nearly as large a portfolio as you, and getting out. Been threatened, verbally abused, abused in writing, owed rent, property has been trashed and very fed up with tenants on HB having more disposable "income" than I do not to mention the latest iPhones, iPads, whopping TV's etc etc. and why should I be an unpaid immigration officer and an unpaid ASBO officer with the fear of fines if I get it wrong or can't stop their anti-social behaviour.

Luke P

1:17 AM, 10th May 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Judith Wordsworth at 10/05/2021 - 00:32
FWIW, I’ve just started to dabble in cryptocurrency and with virtually no clue, have made over 5% on my investment in a week. Sure, it’s not always like this but there’s no myriad of legal hoops to jump through, making it far easier than this game we’re in. Learning to be better at understanding/reading the markets has got to be easier and more predictable that tenants’ behaviour, right?

Dylan Morris

9:04 AM, 10th May 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Judith Wordsworth at 10/05/2021 - 00:32Don’t forget if they are in receipt of disability benefit, the state gives them a brand new car every three years ......for the rest of their lives. And road tax, insurance, new tyres and servicing all paid for. Plus if you’re so old you can’t drive it, no problem you can stay on the scheme and nominate two other drivers. My neighbour has been having brand new cars on Motorbility for 20 years. He’s just had his replacement new car, a top of the range Hyundai Tucson all paid for by the taxpayer. It’s like have a company car.........but without the job. Complete madness and the Government are having to borrow the money to pay for all this. (Sorry for the rant).

Mick Roberts

10:15 AM, 10th May 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Judith Wordsworth at 10/05/2021 - 00:32
Ha ha yes, I was the last out of all my tenants to get the flat screen TV & Sky.

Yes, I keep saying I've had enough of & don't want to Policeman, debt collector, Counsellor, Social Worker, I just want to be a ruddy Landlord, want the rent to pay the mortgage, nothing more.

Paul T. Guest

13:13 PM, 17th May 2021, About 3 years ago

What alternatives are you considering, though? If you sold up and put the money in a "safe" investment that required no effort, such as the building society, you might only get 1.5% return and have no hedge against inflation or against "money-printer go 'brrrr' ".

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