Previously a Conservative voter!

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16:28 PM, 24th November 2016
About 4 years ago

Previously a Conservative voter!

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Previously a Conservative voter!

I have traditionally voted Conservative but I would be unable to vote for them if there was a general election next week due to recent changes in BTL taxation. I would like to understand how many other readers of this forum feel the same way and what their intentions are, the next time they get to vote for their local MP?conservative

I also wonder whether there would be any merit in Tenant Tax candidates running for office in selected consistencies?

I would imagine a short list could be drawn up of potential seats to target and that some of those impacted would be willing to fund the campaign.

I wouldn’t expect the candidates to win but it would increase publicity and highlight lost Conservative voters.


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Dr Rosalind Beck

18:14 PM, 25th November 2016
About 4 years ago

Sorry to get party political, Gary, but I think UKIP are mostly all mad, Labour are gormless and the Tories are self-serving (obviously with a few exceptions). Or maybe all three are all three. In the old days, I would have said, there's no-one to vote for so we'll have to vote Green! (for those who don't know, they are the tw*ts who put s24 in their Manifesto)

If the Women's Party put up a local candidate I might be able to go for that... but they didn't last time where I live...

As for UKIP in the Welsh Assembly, I think the Assembly is a complete farce and waste of public money. Christ. How many layers of Government do we need? All the Assembly does is yakkedy-yak and spend money. They couldn't create any in a million years.

PS I can't believe your number of likes. It could be a new record! It looks like you might have to stand yourself. I particularly liked the bit about your mum's jam sandwiches and the lamb chop. In my house we had a lot of mashed potato, beef burger and baked beans courtesy of my single parent Dad - plus porridge in the morning.

Rob Crawford

19:00 PM, 25th November 2016
About 4 years ago

I am not so sure UKIP will ever have a landlord friendly manifesto. I also strongly suspect that when rents begin to rise as a result of all these new conservative measures (most stolen from the Green & Labour Party) that the only result will be rent capping. The only bit yet to be adopted by the Conservatives!

Gary Nock

19:25 PM, 25th November 2016
About 4 years ago

Ah. Rent capping. Guaranteed to destroy the rental sector as it did from 1915 to 1988. No more mobility of labour as no more landlords. Quick tell the 24 year old spotty geography graduate special adviser in the Treasury. Lets finally kill off the elitist property thieving landlord class. Power to the people.

Sadly this might happen.

Paul Green

19:29 PM, 25th November 2016
About 4 years ago

Jeremy Corbyn is a sane man, if you vote conservative, then you deserve what's happened, because their insane. When has a Tory ever done anything for a working man or woman, There funded by bankers not unions. You should vote with your heart, and think about your children and grandchildren, not your selfish selves. VOTE LABOUR. They will stop nuclear proliferation, save our planet from climate change deniers, help the homeless, disabled, provide a social security net which we all need in hard times & also save the NHS. It's a no brainier. And final adhere to the social contract, and respect the consent of the governed.

Lisa S

21:29 PM, 25th November 2016
About 4 years ago

I have voted Tory all my life....never again.
Labour would be worse.
I agree 100% with Ros re UKIP......
Which leaves me with Lib Dems, sadly Tim Farron hasn't any 'presence' ....but may be Nick Clegg can be persuaded to come back. They did seem to keep Tories under control in the coalition....they just didn't shout about it.
And, just before everyone jumps on me from a great height...I am a remain voter.....but I am extremely sad to see the way the referendum has divided the country, and I do think we will end up leaving the EU.

Gary Nock

21:34 PM, 25th November 2016
About 4 years ago

You forgot to add...
Leave the country defenceless;

Spend money it hasn't got and leave it bankrupt;

Strike until it no longer functions;

Pay everybody not to nobody produces taxes for public services;

Allow uncontrolled immigration so there is no accomodation, jobs, or public services for the indigenous population;

Yep I am sure we would vote labour....

Gary Dully

0:44 AM, 26th November 2016
About 4 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Dr Rosalind Beck" at "25/11/2016 - 18:14":

Nothing wrong in getting political Ross.

Why do you think UKIP are mad?

Is it because you heard one of their opponents suggest that they were?
Let's see what they want us to do.

They sugggest 'controlled immigration' such as an Australian points system. (Tick)
They want a Grammer school in every town (tick), so that poor kids with talent don't need rich parents for specialised education.

Local cottage hospitals (tick) + specialist units.( I have doubts about this)
Offer grants of up to £10,000 per unit for property remediation (tick)
Merging of planning and building control (tick)
Presume planning consent granted, for out of town centres when converting commercial and retail to residential (tick)
Effective enforcement of animal welfare laws (tick)
Tough penalties for abandoning horses and animals (not a big problem in Liverpool)
Close illegal puppy farms (aaaaaah - tick)
Reduce rail fares on unelectrified routes that have been delayed.
Public sector catering in schools for all kids (tick)
Raise the personal allowance to £13,000 (tick)
Abolish inheritance tax (tick)
Raise the 40% tax threshold to £55,000 (tick)
Integration of health and social care (worth a try)
Waive tuition fees for science, technology, engineering, maths and medical degrees at university. (Tick)
Bring empty homes back into use (tick)

And the list goes on.

I don't agree with everything- but I like some of their message, which simply needs listening to, beyond the noise of their detractors, who accuse anyone with a different view as a raging, predatory kiddie fiddler that has outdated trousers and smokes fags.

They won't form a government, but they will rip a hole and a bit of common sense might appear to shine in our political system.

Chris @ Possession Friend

8:33 AM, 26th November 2016
About 4 years ago

I agree mostly with Gary, in reality, few are going to agree with Everything that any party stand for.
What I do like about the current situation, is that for a long time now, its possible for those who object to the immigration policies ( or lack of ) in this country, are being heard and Not considered Racist.
Getting back to the PRS, -
I think I'll contact UKIP and ask them for their stance on Sec 24 and Letting Agents fees. I'll publish their response.

Mark Alexander

8:35 AM, 26th November 2016
About 4 years ago

The Government I would like to see in power would have the UK's best motivational speaker as PM. The Chancellor would be our best economics professor, the Home Secretary would be our most decorated General and the foreign secretary would be our most accomplished diplomat.

They would share a common goal to make Britain Great again and be neither left or right wing. They would have ethics and social conscience whilst focussing selflessly on inspiring all Brits to be part of British capitalism.

They would reduce tax to the point where all companies want to be based in Britain and they would limit immigration to ensure that only the most productive are allowed to enter the UK.

Planning law would be relaxed to encourage housing development so that all people have realistic choices.

Our health service would focus on caring for patients as opposed to burocracy and would become efficient as a result.

Essential service providers such as Police, Fire, Ambulance, carers and teachers would be supported with housing.

Legislation would be streamlines to remove barriers to business and many quangos would cease to exist.

The party that can deliver that will get my vote. Until then I will neither be voting nor living in the UK.

Gary Dully

10:28 AM, 26th November 2016
About 4 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Bob Plumb" at "24/11/2016 - 18:50":

Labour = Death of BTL for sure.
Right to buy extended to the PRS, including discounts
Rent capping
Ceiling on rent rises
Total licensing
Increase in arrears time allowed before eviction
Increase in capital gains tax
Increase in inheritance taxes
Introduce a Mansion tax
Empty property confiscations
Abolish all tax reliefs for landlords
3 year + tenancies as standard
Abolishing the ability of refusing LHA or UC claimants as tenants
Rent repayment orders for any disrepair issues
Allow councils to tax extra for rented property.

Pick the bones out of that lot.

Lib dems
Mansion Tax
And most of the above

Thatched roofing grants for all and abolish BTL

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