Manufactured Housing by L&G?

by Readers Question

14:46 PM, 8th January 2019
About 2 months ago

Manufactured Housing by L&G?

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Manufactured Housing by L&G?

Hi, has anyone bought or viewed one of the prefabricated houses being built in a factory by Legal and General? (listen to Radio 4 “In business” programme)

I’d welcome your thoughts on their construction, reliability and the ease of getting tenants and mortgages for such properties.

Thanks in anticipation.

Peter

Editors Notes:

From L&G >> https://www.legalandgeneral.com/modular/our-homes/

“Modular building is quicker and more efficient than traditional house building, delivering homes in a matter of weeks rather than years to consistently high standards.

We manufacture precision engineered modular homes in a factory environment, ensuring accuracy of build, in dry controlled conditions, using state of the art methods and materials with a series of quality assurance checks carried out before it leaves the factory.

Our Design for Manufacture and Assembly (DfMA) approach enables high-volume production of affordable, high performance homes that are comfortable to live in, efficient to maintain and great for the environment.”



Comments

Rob Crawford

16:06 PM, 8th January 2019
About 2 months ago

I think these type of properties need to be licensed by the local authority (planning constraint), I recall 10 years. Bit this could be a different design / supplier. If this is the case then a mortgage would not be possible.

Martin

10:12 AM, 9th January 2019
About 2 months ago

If this is the finish of a "show" house I would like to see the standard finish:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/XfLXvPEwLzgxBTxh6

Paul Shears

11:00 AM, 9th January 2019
About 2 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Martin at 09/01/2019 - 10:12I looked cynically but I did not spot that even on close examination. Well done!
As an ex builder from decades ago, I am very biased in favour of off site construction in a controlled environment. But every time a see a british attempt at this, it is a complete nonsense.
I recall the early days of timbre framed construction in the north of the UK. The properties looked great with their new finishes but they had to be eventually demolished due to poor hidden quality control in the controlled environment. Basically the philosophy was to appear to achieve the desired task as cheaply as possible.
I recall that as soon as German Passive House properties started to arrive in the UK, the british builder mindset started to apply itself with a request to use the term Passive House" to a lower standard of construction.
This would make the british offering appear to be the same as the European one but actually to a lower standard.
Our building construction methods are, in many areas, amongst the lowest of any first world country due to centralised regulation supporting poor judgement by bureaucrats.
I have to confess that I am particularly sensitive to this old british issue at the moment as three colleagues and myself are facing a bill of £100K - £200K to address basic design flaws that cannot be blamed on anyone but the numerous people involved in the original constructions 48 years ago.
The basic design flaws were hidden and are only just becoming apparent.
These design flaws would never have been put on paper by anyone with any ability, nevermind approved by the various construction bodies involved and everyone that has been involved since. They would have been utterly obvious to anyone seeing the houses actually being constructed.
And yet they got past everyone.
It's been investigated. The buck stops with us. No insurance company is going to pay out and there is nobody to sue with any reasonable chance of success.
So buyer beware. You can't always run to official "process" to take your problems away.
Additionally I have been present at new build opening days and been in utter despair by the potential purchasers present, not one of whom could spot any of the completely obvious (to me) basic construction faults that would never be able to be addressed.
I do not know of a way of ensuring good standards in anything but training and experience alone has never worked in the UK.

Mark Garner

11:31 AM, 9th January 2019
About 2 months ago

Looks like a good approach for low cost housing to help produce much needed housing in the UK but do the local planning authorities like this approach? Does this approach help with the granting of planning permission or is it exactly the same for traditional builds?
Appreciate any thoughts?

Lesley Clarke

13:18 PM, 9th January 2019
About 2 months ago

There are loads of companies building "off site precision engineered" homes these days, a lot are based abroad, particularly in Germany. I read somewhere that it is particularly popular in Scotland as the speed of the build means less delay due to bad weather. There was a series of programmes a few years ago called "My flat pack home" which featured families that built their own homes using this method.

sam

17:58 PM, 9th January 2019
About 2 months ago

I think off site construction is the only way to go. An absolute no brainer. Unlike the days of old, design and quality have improved out of all recognition. And the speed they can roll off production lines. Still, may be a couple more years to give it time to settle down in UK might be prudent. Or buy from the Germans who have been doing this for a while - Brexit might put a legal dampener on the idea. Or buy from big cos like L & G but they are new to the game also.

Anybody knowledgeable about this ?

Paul Shears

23:21 PM, 9th January 2019
About 2 months ago

Tilt up construction is well established throughout much of the world including Tasmania, Ireland, Europe, america, Canada & China.
It's an absolutely excellent idea that can be constructed with inherent insulation if required.
The germans have had a basement test bed using this system which floats in a lake for years without any problems . So no damp problems there. 🙂
I have never heard it being used for house construction on the UK mainland so far.
I think it it's absolutely brilliant, high quality, cheap for what is created and simple.
It can be prefabricated both on and, more usually, off site.


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