Is being a landlord even an investment “opportunity” these days?

Is being a landlord even an investment “opportunity” these days?

0:02 AM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago 17

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Hello, I’ve been a BTL landlord for over 6 years but in that time we have had tax changes, legislation changes, and now increased interest rates/running costs and possibly stricter letting rules to come.

Is it even worth the risk of expanding now or is it best to invest somewhere else in the meantime?

In my investment area, “decent” rental properties range from £95k to £130k for 2 bed terraced/end-of-terraced houses which can bring in £625-£750 PCM depending on the usual factors. So on face value, this gives a yield of around 7-8% however when you factor in buying costs, fees, maintenance and tax you end up with around 4-5% ROI, not too bad, but not exactly brilliant. So it begs the question is it even worth it?

OK lets work through a recent example of mine….(Assuming I’m already operating in a LTD Co and the company running costs are already covered)

If a 75% LTV 5 years fixed BTL mortgage is 6.29% + £2,000 in arrangement/valuation fees I would need to put down £31,000 (£25K deposit, £3k stamp duty, £2k fees, £1k conveyancing) to buy a £100,000 property with an expected rent of £650PCM. With all expected expenses/running costs taken out this gives a gross profit of £155PCM and a net profit of £126 (19% tax) and this profit is still “stuck” in the company.

If I put the same £31,000 (£20k in my name £11k in the wife’s) into a 5-year fixed cash ISA at 5.3% which pays the interest monthly I’ll make £137PCM tax-free without any headache of being a landlord.

I understand that property prices/rents can increase overtime, but so can the risk of being stuck with a nightmare tenant/unexpected bill.

So surely in today’s market it’s a no brainier to put your money elsewhere like my example above, but interested to hear what others are doing/think?

JaSam


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Mick Roberts

9:44 AM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

Yes, please send your great workings out to the Govt.
You say it exactly as it is. And Sadiq Khan wants to bring in Rent controls. Numbers aren't adding up for us & many any more. And they wish to beat us down further.

SteveFowkes

9:51 AM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

You didn't mention potential capitol increase in value

But if you're heavily leveraged then the numbers just don't add up with the recent interest rises

Hew De Bowen

10:39 AM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

Rent is real income. You can use it to live on. The value of the BTL house increases over time, keeping pace with inflation in the long run. But the interest in an ISA will not even cover inflation, so you cannot spend it without consuming your capital. So BTL investment is still worth it, but not with a high LTV ratio. I keep my LTV under 50%.

Hew De Bowen

10:43 AM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

Numerous 'gurus' online are strongly recommending HMOs, serviced accommodation etc instead of basic BTLs, because they say, the returns are much higher. What do readers think about this? Is it really worth the extra hassle? Are the benefits perhaps being oversold?

Dino Saw

10:45 AM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

For me (been renting since mid 90’s) that kind of rental return would not work - tenant changeover costs and empty property for a month would lose you about 4 months rent - I would put it in the bank at 6% you can get now and wait for interest rates to fall or distressed sales to be available where you can buy it cheaper.

Failing that then put down 50% and get a better return.

Others would go for it, but I wouldn’t

Churchills Tax Advisers

11:20 AM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

The way things are going, the potential risks of being a private landlord are far greater than the rewards.

The main benefit of BTLs is gearing for a greater return, but that is high risk and doesn't work at the moment, with high interest rates and limited tax relief. You can be making a rental loss after interest, but still have to pay tax.

Otherwise, you may as well invest in a basket of tracker funds, probably lower risk, less admin and similar return (not investment advice!), You could even get a part time job to fill in the time you have been wasting fulfilling your duties as a landlord:-)

Beaver

11:50 AM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

I think the other consideration is do you have children plus considerations of inheritance tax. Yes, from the point of view of short-term investment the government has made BTL investing relatively unattractive for the small investor (but not for large incorporated businesses). For the longer term BTL might make sense if you have kids and also want to allow for them, but if you don't, in the long term the government is going to take a lot of your money off you via 40% inheritance tax anyway.

Churchills Tax Advisers

12:12 PM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

It is far easier to mitigate IHT if you are invested in standard investments, rather than BTLs, especially if the BTLs are geared.

With BTLs there are relatively few opportunities to mitigate IHT, and they tend to be complex and expensive to put in place.

Churchills Tax Advisers

12:14 PM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Hew De Bowen at 08/08/2023 - 10:43
Benefits are oversold IMHO, unless you want a lot more hassle in your life.

Rob Crawford

14:23 PM, 8th August 2023, About 9 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Hew De Bowen at 08/08/2023 - 10:43
I think it's arguable whether HMO'S have a higher yield or not? Are we talking bills inclusive individual rooms let under a multiple ASTs or a property let to multiple tenants under a single AST? I would suggest a bills inclusive arrangement would have a higher cost risk, but they do command a higher rent. Any investor landlord needs to consider the investment as "longterm" whereas a bank account is relatively short term. However, I do feel the long term picture is now looking rather unattractive!

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