EICR report – fail (C2) smoke alarms expired?
1:28 PM, 18th January 2021, 5 years ago
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A recent EICR report has been returned with a FAIL on a C2, where the mains powered smoke detectors are 10 years old and classed as out of date.
All are working correctly with no faults. Where does it state in regulations that this is a FAIL and not an C3 recommended to replace?
I’ve researched Google with no written word confirming reasoning. Only requesting where I can retrieve the information as nothing on Gov.uk site etc.
Thanks in advance.
JM
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1:40 PM, 23rd January 2021, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Paul Shears at 23/01/2021 – 11:10
I completely agree, they new to add value, not create you grief.
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2:09 PM, 23rd January 2021, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by JGM at 23/01/2021 – 09:38
You probably don’t need an electrician to simply replace like for like. It’s like changing a light bulb; push in the tab(s) at the side turn anticlockwise and replace with the new unit. The base plate does not need to be changed. I’m not a sparks and am open to correction or confirmation.
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2:09 PM, 23rd January 2021, About 5 years ago
You probably don’t need an electrician to simply replace like for like. It’s like changing a light bulb; push in the tab(s) at the side turn anticlockwise and replace with the new unit. The base plate does not need to be changed. I’m not a sparks and am open to correction or confirmation.
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3:05 PM, 23rd January 2021, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by JGM at 23/01/2021 – 09:47
change agent?
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9:09 AM, 2nd March 2021, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by JGM at 23/01/2021 – 09:47
Our managing agent tried the same, accompanied by a quote for £171 to replace two out of date smoke alarms – marked as an urgent legal requirement within 28 days.
Challenged this, and got bulls**t back from the contractor who claims to do thousands of these tests in Midlands and East Midlands. Funny thing the National Register https://www.electricalcompetentperson.co.uk/ lists them as not competent to do inspections. I got replacement alarms fitted by a different contractor.
Same agent followed up a gas inspection asking for urgent authorisation to do ‘necessary’ gas work. Work also turned out to be only advisory. Is there a pattern here?
Will be changing agent!
Member Since March 2021 - Comments: 1
10:47 AM, 16th March 2021, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Owen O’Neill at 18/01/2021 – 14:07
I disagree. While it isn’t specifically included in the BPG it is Current-using equipment (permanently connected) and is also installed not meeting manufacturers specifications. Thusly impairing the safety.
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1:15 PM, 16th March 2021, About 5 years ago
Reply to the comment left by ben ide at 16/03/2021 – 10:47
For the purpose of an EICR, a smoke alarm is out of scope.
But any good electrician will leave a comment with no code.
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9:47 PM, 21st March 2021, About 5 years ago
Smoke alarms dont come under the wiring regulations. End of.