JGM

Registered with Property118.com
Wednesday 20th May 2020

Location
Northampton

Insures properties through a broker recommended by Property118
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Total Number of Property118 Comments: 7

JGM

10:55 AM, 19th January 2021
About 2 days ago

EICR report - fail (C2) smoke alarms expired?

Reply to the comment left by steve p at 19/01/2021 - 00:25
Thanks Steve. My initial entry was basically an anomalie that, to my knowledge, had not been addressed fully before.

The only problem with an electrician awarding a C2 on an EICR is, as you know, is that it requires immediate action, as it has been classed as a potential danger. It will come down to the individual inspecting and using their sound judgement and use of classifications, determining 'satisfactory' or 'unsatisfactory' .

In the main, I suppose it will further depend upon opinion and interpretation of the regulations. The Landlord Smoke Alarm Regulations for 2020 states that: '.... if you have a WORKING smoke alarm on each habitable level of your property, you are within the law'. Regards.... Read More

JGM

22:48 PM, 18th January 2021
About 2 days ago

EICR report - fail (C2) smoke alarms expired?

Well why do you think 🤔 I raised the matter. Please re read my query. I asked for where I could retrieve information advising and warning users of the smoke detectors of their life span. It isn't highlighted anywhere. Apart from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 where it mentions it but not England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿. As a property manager - You obviously didn't know your clients smoke detectors had a life span until your recent EICR or possibly previous personal experience. As you have pointed out, as I quote you "any responsible Landlord or agent would want to get these replaced within 28 days anyway to protect their tenants (and themselves should a fire start)!". If you don't know, you don't know. Its clear the only checks normally done on the smoke detectors is during check in prior to tenancy starting and then obligation by the tenant as part of the tenancy agreement. Now it is suddenly included in the EICR, but not highlighted. I agree more visible prominent information on this oversight by all publishers on the subject of smoke detectors life span needs an urgent review. I know the CO 2 monitors have an expiry date through experience. They are clearly labelled on the outside casing. Thanks for your input. Not intending to be disrespectful but my concern is that the knowledge of this life span needs to be a bigger focal point to warn users, and particularly landlords. Think about this - Who sets a reminder for 10 years time? For example 'Need to replace your smoke detectors you fitted 10 years ago!! '
The introduction of required EICR every 5 years I am sure will reduce that reminder in time, as electricians record C3 classifications, advising of their expiry date perhaps. Only time will tell.
As a responsible person, I have already arranged for the original C2 issue I raised to be actioned as soon as possible. We all are entitled to our opinions.... Read More

JGM

16:42 PM, 18th January 2021
About 2 days ago

EICR report - fail (C2) smoke alarms expired?

Reply to the comment left by Owen O'Neill at 18/01/2021 - 14:07
Hi Owen. Thanks for your comments. I have questioned electricians reasoning for grading. Awaiting reply. All correspondence states to be legal the smoke alarm needs to be working nothing about EXPIRY date.... Read More

JGM

15:47 PM, 18th January 2021
About 2 days ago

JGM

15:46 PM, 18th January 2021
About 2 days ago

EICR report - fail (C2) smoke alarms expired?

Reply to the comment left by paul robinson at 18/01/2021 - 13:59
Obviously something you didn't know about either. This area is still being researched to see if it should be downgraded to a C3... Read More