9:12 AM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago 12
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Hi, I need some advice regarding a failed gas safety certificate on a boiler and the hob on my rental property.
I have Home Serve cover and I organised a British Gas engineer to carry out a gas safety inspection on a property which unfortunately failed.
I have since had the boiler repaired and the hob replaced within 28 days of the gas-safe inspection. I spoke to the British Gas representative to request a re-test. They informed me that if they visit the property again, they will charge me again for a retest gas safety certificate.
However, they advised I do not need to get another gas safety certificate as I am allowed to marry all the documents together to confirm the work has been done.
I have looked online to check if this is the correct advice but I can’t find anything to confirm. Does the marrying of the certificates confirm that the appliances are safe legally for another year and I do not need another gas-safe certificate?
Thanks,
Rashpal
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10:51 AM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
Doesn’t sound right to me. Your car fails an MOT you then get this item repaired somewhere else who provides an invoice / proof that this has been fixed. You still need an MOT retest to get the certificate as PASS. You can’t show an MOT failed and an invoice an expect to get tax/insurance. Just pay the money and get it re-done, don’t mess around with non-compliance especially when it comes to Gas.
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11:54 AM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
Anybody who works on gas has a duty to work according to law, and they need to test the installation before they leave.
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14:49 PM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
I’ve had this before.
If the installer was gas safe registered – and they should be by law.
Then British gas will marry up the documents to confirm the required work has been done and the property effectively has a gas safety.
However they won’t issue a certificate confirming that without another visit which is chargeable.
If you then come to rent again you have no certificate so no let.
Do what I did, grit your teeth and pay an independent to a gas safety which should cost you around £100.
In my opinion it just isn’t worth the potential hassle down the line. Pay the £100 and be done with it.
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14:54 PM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
They should have given you a certificate for the hob and repair on the boiler. So likely right that you use both certificates together.
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17:24 PM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
It’s good you got the repairs done, but you still need a new gas safety certificate to show everything is safe. Just combining the documents isn’t enough legally.
I recommend scheduling a re-test to get that new certificate, so you have the right proof for your records and for your tenants.
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17:28 PM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by JaSam at 23/09/2024 – 10:51
Thanks for the advice. You’re right, I shouldn’t mess around. I have now booked for a gas safe inspection.
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17:30 PM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by Martin at 23/09/2024 – 14:49
Thanks. I agree, it’s not worth the hassle. I’ve now booked for the gas safe with someone else.
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17:51 PM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by JaSam at 23/09/2024 – 10:51
Can the local council building control advise on this?
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18:25 PM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
If the only appliances in the property are the (repaired) boiler and the (newly installed) hob, you don’t need a new Gas Safety Certificate.
However, I’d commission a new GSC and I’d have asked whoever did the last job to provide one as part of the job.
The other thing is that judges don’t always understand the law and may throw out a S21 case for the lack of a GSC.
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18:56 PM, 23rd September 2024, About A year ago
As a retired Gas Engineer I would say the following holds.
1) Replacement of the hob should have provided you with an official installation certificate and provides cover for one year. You need this if you sell within 7 years. Ask your fitter if you do not have one.
2) Most gas engineers are trained to offer to fix other problems so they can provide a “clean” gas safety certificate.
Perhaps your problem is using British Gas. Use an independent guy, you can find one on the Gas Safe web site. They understand the needs of Landlords, and only have one set of regulations to work to – the legal ones, rather than layering corporate ones on top.
Legally a Gas Safety Certificate is not a Pass or Fail – its a report on the condition. So demonstrating something has been fixed by a Gas Safe registered Engineer is legally sufficient.