Stung by the £500pw Benefit Cap, no rent being paid – Help!

by Mick Roberts

17:32 PM, 6th August 2013
About 7 years ago

Stung by the £500pw Benefit Cap, no rent being paid – Help!

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Stung by the £500pw Benefit Cap, no rent being paid – Help!

This week I have been stung by my first experience of the benefits cap. Stung by the Benefit Cap, no rent being paid - Help

One of my tenants Housing Benefit has gone down to £30pw from £159pw.

This is the cap where the Government are limiting families to £500pw of maximum benefits and all councils will have it by Sept 2013.

My tenant now gets £310 Child Tax Credit, approx £90 Child benefit & £10 Income Support with loans taken off. With Council Tax & the £30HB, we are about £500. A lot of money I know, but when they’ve had if for years, they’re used to it.

My tenant cannot understand at all that she has to pay any rent out her own pocket – so isn’t going to – so she says.

I’ve given her notice in case things get worse, as mortgages don’t grow on trees.

I don’t want her to go and she she doesn’t want to go either!

She rang me up every week for a year to get a house off me, so we are both valued to each other.

I have contacted Shelter, MP’s, Govt, CLG, Advice Centre, the Council Housing benefit and more and none of them seem to know anything whatsoever about direct payment to a Landlord when tenant is in arrears as a result of these circumstances.

The Local Authority is now saying no provision for direct payment to Landlord when in arrears.

As we all know Universal Credit are talking about direct payment to Landlord because of the big arrears they’ve been getting in trial areas. And as we all know, direct payment when LHA was introduced in 2008 was a no no,until we all moaned enough that is. Now getting direct payment is like taking candy from a baby.

However, I’m hitting a brick wall with direct payment under this new benefit cap.

I thought I was a benefit expert until this week. I’m 99% sure they will do something eventually, when enough people get evicted and moan enough, but I and many others need something positive to happen now.

My Local Authority are not interested, they seem to think it’s  funny that supercool Landlord Mick Roberts is now only getting £30pw when he was getting £159pw and in their eyes, lapping it up.

My tenant is still allowed £159pw under 4 bed LHA rate rules, but it is the benefits cap which is limiting her housing benefit payment to £30pw. Clearly this is the first thing tenants lose when going over the £500pw threshold.

Govt needs to wake up because they haven’t got the houses for for these tenants and wherever this tenant ends up she will only get £30pw towards her rent, so will be in the same boat with any Landlord.

The big families are no longer attractive!

Jeez, I wanted this to be a quick post, but if any experts reading this know more than me and can help, it would be very much appreciated.




Paul Maguire

9:41 AM, 26th August 2013
About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Jonathan Clarke" at "26/08/2013 - 09:30":

Jonathan. I worked on the rigs for 10 years and when you work out the pay versus time out there it's not so great.. I also learned that the more you earned the more you spent so unless you're wiser than your years [I wasn't] you're no better off. You were smarter to go into property instead.

Mick Roberts

7:58 AM, 30th August 2013
About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Jonathan Clarke" at "26/08/2013 - 09:30":

Ha ha Jonathon, exactly. Except I’ve been doing it 15 years now & still not ruddy retired.
There’s a saying ‘You’ll never earn any money working for someone else’.
I still finish 6pm, have a rule, phone on silent after 6pm,office door shut, don’t care if the house falls apart (as long as no one hurt), I know that may sound wrong, but I got to set a limit somewhere. Tenants have emergency numbers out of hours.
I have dual sim phone, line 2 just for tenants, so when I go away holiday, I just divert my phone to my worker in the UK, otherwise they’re ringing me while I’m on the ski slope wondering why I can’t talk about the RSPCA trying to break in to take their dog away because they’ve left it empty in the house for 5 days with no food or water-I kid u not, that was problem 2 weeks ago & have photo’s to prove.
Same here it is fun sometimes, but I’m not gonna’ glorify my good bits on here, otherwise people will start thinking I’ve got it easy-And I can’t have that ha ha.

Dana Carpin

13:32 PM, 9th September 2013
About 7 years ago

Hi Guys,

as a landlord and an agent things are only going to get worse before they get better hopefully. Having been in this business for over 12 years the housing benefit tenant market is the worst I have seen. Local authorities advise tenants to stay put until being evicted, they have to have a bailiff date. The latest is they are advising tenants to put a 'stay' in fore the bailiff as well so as to further delay the onus being put on them to rehouse!! There are no social housing properties and tenants who have just not paid rent are being told to move in with relatives and if they are over crowded in some instances their children have been placed in foster homes!!!!! Something needs to be sorted out as with over 130 landlords that I deal with not one will accept housing benefit tenant's any more

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