Section 24 Property types affected?
10:06 AM, 17th February 2017, 9 years ago
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Is there any official guidance from HMRC regarding what exactly a ‘buy to let’ property is?
This is important assuming that a property that require a HMO license may now not be considered wholly residential as the involvement of the landlord is much greater. Or mixed use properties such as a flat above a shop for example? Or student properties, are these considered buy to let under the new tax relief changes?
Michael
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10:23 AM, 17th February 2017, About 9 years ago
Hi Michael,
Any residential property held in your private name will be affected by Section 24 rules on mortgage interest relief including HMOs and Student properties.
Although I could not find an exhaustive list anywhere.
Holiday lets are excluded along with commercial.
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12:43 PM, 17th February 2017, About 9 years ago
I am under the impression that a three storey terraced property with a shop and two flats is two thirds liable for section 24 treatment.
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1:12 PM, 17th February 2017, About 9 years ago
Very interesting threaded, I understand apportionment with shop/residential, but with HMO what about communial area. Certainly in respect to AIA HMRC view communial area as commercial so if communial area was say 5% floor space I would assume 95/5 apportionment?
Furthermore, could you include external bin store and path in this calculation, maybe another 5%. If you made Garden communal maybe another 10%
Thoughts ?
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10:35 AM, 18th February 2017, About 9 years ago
This is the first I have heard of apportionment to reduce the impact of clause 24. So I hope this thread continues as I would appreciate the feed back. My question to those who are considering to apply this idea to an HMO is do you claim tax relief on the heating / water / council tax on 100% of the HMO or just the rented rooms? You can’t have it both ways!
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11:40 AM, 18th February 2017, About 9 years ago
….sorry, forgot to add, that if apportionment for tax relief on mortgagee in this way was proposed and HMRC then stated that utilities/Council tax had to be apportioned in the same way, then landlords with earnings below the higher rate and also those with no mortgage would be worse off!
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2:24 PM, 14th June 2018, About 8 years ago
Hi,
Just to kick this thread off again and pondering my tax return, I found this while searching for Section 24 & mixed use properties…..its a Scottish definition, but all I could find……
‘Mixed’ property transactions
A transaction where there is a mixture of residential and commercial interests (for example, a landed estate or a shop with a flat above it) is treated as a non-residential transaction and will therefore be subject to the non-residential LBTT rates and bands (see LBTT4011).
We have a number of shops with flats above – finding it difficult to get through to HMRC.
Any thoughts would be welcome.
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3:44 PM, 14th June 2018, About 8 years ago
Well resurrected, Sir!
I was disappointed there was no conclusive answer last time. With three such properties I watch with interest. I had already submitted the tax stuff to the accountant last time.
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5:11 PM, 14th June 2018, About 8 years ago
There must be a few of us out there!