Private address required for HMO Licence!

Private address required for HMO Licence!

19:08 PM, 3rd June 2014, About 7 years ago 51

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I’m applying for a HMO licence and the council officer is insisting we give our private residence address but I’m not happy to give this information. I’m not comfortable with my tenants knowing where I live. Private address required for HMO Licence

I have given my office address but he says this is not acceptable.

Does anyone know the law on this?

Thanks

John



Comments

by Chris Amis

9:56 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

Why create the risk;

If a LL goes nuts and attacks a tenant, the authorities can find him/her.

The LL knowing where the tenant lives is an unavoidable 'risk'.

Apart from the ability to visit the LL in the small hours, what does the tenant gain from knowing the address, tenancy issues can be dealt with whatever contact details the LL has in place, the deposit holding companies can have a real address.

If it is a dreadful LL who does not really own the house or whatever, then the address will not be real anyway.

by Mick Roberts

9:58 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

How can Landlord not know the tenants address? That is something he has no choice but not to know.
It is a fair comment, but some of us also believe it is totally wrong to give tenant your HOME address, when there may be disagreements in the sector u deal with.

At the Council offices, they DO KNOW their tenants address’s. But do the Council staff on that front counter tell the tenants where they LIVE AT HOME? No, there is no need whatsoever in my opinion. An office address for what the tenant wants is totally fine, as long as correspondence is received.

Why (& let’s use common sense here), would there be any valid reason for the tenant to need to know the Landlords HOME address, if Landlord already has an address for the tenant to contact him regarding work stuff?
Unless of course the tenant is as good looking as u Vanessa & Landlord wishes for them to visit.

I think one of the posts earlier summed it up, about their HIMO’s being close to where they live.

Unfortunately law of averages, & from my experience in the real lower end world-95% of my tenants are cannabis addicts (plus the rest)-the more tenants know your address, the more chance you will have of inviting trouble.
We don’t all deal with Mr Posh pay £900pm bank worker in London. A lot of my tenants week before they move, will order every single thing from Bright House £1000 TV, £700 washer, £2000 settee etc. & then do their moonlight flit. Real world.

Come on Jonathon Clarke, where are u? Someone hashtag him or whatever u do-Back me up ha ha.

by Mick Roberts

10:00 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Chris Amis" at "04/06/2014 - 09:56":

Brilliant Chris hear hear. Why can't I sum it up in few sentences.

by

10:09 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

Mick,

I am just playing Devil's Advocate.

I am against a "them and us" mentality. While that exists, there will always be anti-landlord sentiment.

A landlord could just as easily attack a tenant, as a tenant could a landlord. Therefore, I don't think it should be given as a reason not to give a home address.

All I am suggesting is ... find another valid reason ... as that reason is not equitable or fair in a mutually beneficial commercial relationship imho.

by Chris Amis

10:14 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

To answer the "don't let to them" suggestions, the person I know dealing with slashed tyres etc had a nice guest house in one of the UK premier holiday spots.

As these towns descend into unemployed ghettos with drugs and booze as the cheapest entertainment I am sure quite a few guest houses transitioned gradually into HMOs.

It is an education to visit these places, where a dope head or drunk who passes out are considered good tenants. Pre-tenancy vetting comes down to working out if they are violent or on crack (which you ask the probation officer).

To give you an impression, one night I was out with some people from this town I know, when they went out for joints 'cause it is illegal to smoke indoors' and outside when the police wandered by I got a bollocking for bringing my drink outside with me.

by john kelly

10:16 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mick Roberts" at "04/06/2014 - 08:50":

Hear Hear Mick....well said

by Mick Roberts

10:19 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Vanessa Warwick" at "04/06/2014 - 10:09":

I know u are. Being the website owner that you are, u will try to create a debate, even though u know one side of argument u may not agree with.

But it is a reason. I ain't attacked any of my tenants in 16 years. BUT I have been threatened NUMEROUS times. Smash u in, smash your house up, smash your vehicles up. So there's my evidence-And I'm a good Landlord ha ha.

That is the reason in the lower end scale.

But what about the Sunday dinner reason with your missus & kids & tenant is ringing your bell 'My living room light bulb is blown'?

Anyway, stop bullying me, I'm going away, case is packed, but trying to clear some last minute work up.

by

10:26 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

Hi Mick,

With respect , this is not my forum and I have no vested interest in stirring debate by offering an alternative view.

I am sorry you feel like that. It could have been an interesting discussion, not least for highlighting the issues of renting out to the "lower end scale" - your words, not mine.

Have a lovely holiday nonetheless. x

by Adam Hosker

10:45 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

Get a PO BOX or Forward Address; this should be enough for the council and an address under law in which tenants can serve a notice.

by Mick Roberts

11:03 AM, 4th June 2014, About 7 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Vanessa Warwick" at "04/06/2014 - 10:26":

Yes, lower end scale is a polite way of putting it.

I could use the word s__theads. Ooh here we go, I'll be attacked again by the posh landlords.

Hey Adam, few years ago, Council said I couldn't put a PO Box address on HB forms. I said are u having a laugh? The Council's own postal address was a PO BOX ADDRESS-Are they nuts or what?

U a big bully u r Vanessa, I'm gonna' tell Mark u always picking on me & to ban u from the site-Ooh hope u in a joke mood today.


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