Petition to criminalise none payment of rent to landlords

absolutely on the nail there Paul.

but as I have pointed out, we have to sell the idea not just to our legislators but to our tenants. getting them on our side is crucial. get them to talk about it on twitter and facebook. tell them that YOU are part of a team of Landlords spearheading an idea to stabilise rents by stopping bad tenants from costing so much.

the 2004 housing act has done alot of damage to the PRS which is now driving rent increases. all in their name. did they ask for rents to go up ? yet that has been the result.

I appreciate your sentiments; but can't help feeling that good tenants would consider that advocating faster eviction processes would be akin to turkeys voting for Christmas!!!
I cannot see that they would see any correlation between a faster eviction process and their rent.
LL would not reduce rent just because they have a faster eviction process.
Why would or should they?
Why should tenants be rewarded for complying with their AST!?
I cannot see that rent increases can in any way be considered to cover for the losses a LL makes when evicting a tenant.
My losses for eg; could never be covered for as long as I live!!
So I will be permanently in loss.
I would not reduce my rent just because I could evict a tenant quickly,; nor would it prevent me from attempting to gain the maximum amount of rent I could achieve.
I don't care what effect this has on a tenant's lifestyle, I want to charge them as much rent as I can.
Market forces will decide that rent level.
If that means that to rent my property the tenant is in effective penury after rent payment, then tough!, I am not as charity, I have chosen to deploy my capital in the PRS to make as much money as possible.
For the iniquitous eviction laws to prevent me from maximising my profit is outrageous in a market economy.
NO other service provider is expected to provide a service, in this case, accommodation, effectively for free until the useless county court system has enforced eviction, with no real possibility of the LL ever recovering the losses caused by a non-rent paying tenant!

hi Paul, look at the economics;

mortgages are very stable and with record low interest rates. property prices are low and stable.

yet since the 2008 crash rents have increased at a faster rate than inflation.
there are 2 reasons for this;

1; more people have lost their homes and have been forced to rent / divorce / leaving the nest... thus driving demand up.

2; more people are now unable to pay rents due to lack of jobs / housing benefit system takes too long / tenant cannot control their money ( beer tokens ) / unaffordable lifestyle

it's the latter that costs every LL. because he doesn't get paid.

therefore in order for the LL to recover this loss an extra £2 per month could quite easily be added to rents without much stress to the GOOD tenants.

have you bought any clothes recently ? the same applies to M and S, Tesco, Sainsbury, Burtons, Next, etc

a few extra pennies is applied to every garment, pot of jam, slice of bacon, to cover the cost of pilfering. this is standard, normal, every day stuff.

however, in their case they can and do prosecute. this ability minimizes their losses.

we, on the other hand, have no such tools in our basket. so our losses are maximized.

so we add that little bit extra to the GOOD tenants to pay for the BAD tenants.

Paul....THAT IS THE STORY. what you do is up to you, but THAT IS THE STORY WE STICK TO. comprendi.

it's not what you sell ...it's how you sell it.

I do get the concept and all businesses do as you suggest.
Prices are are always adjusted to allow the consumer to pay for losses the business experiences.
This is done by the price point that a provider offers their service for.
Doing it by small increases which are generally not noticeable by the consumer is the way that most businesses operate.
The losses that a LL experience are far to much for a £2.00 increase on rent to cover.
I would need to double my tenant's monthly rent to cover for my losses.
Whereas fast eviction would have stopped the majority of those losses ever occurring.
This is the reason why RGI is the only way presently I can protect myself from non-rent paying tenants.
This means I cannot rent to HB tenants.

I can only repeat what has been said before, Paul-

"how do you eat an elephant?" Answer "one bite at a time".

we have to start at some point to change the way lettings and evictions works now.

this is that start point. one bite at a time.

we will get there, slowly over many years possibly, but we will get there.
but we all have to sing the same song and all of us in tune, making the same noise.

I've been subsidising my tenants over many years due to not payments and appalling damages, trashed houses, some years as much as £8000 loses.

fortunately I have another business that can easily carry this.

we need to be heard and we need to work together. don't be angry, you just sight of your targets when you're angry.

I suppose I have been up against the system doe seemingly so long that as a result of the system, my financial future has been effectively destroyed due to wrongun tenants.

You have been fortunate in that your other business interests have effectively subsidised your wrongun tenants.

Outrageous that you were put in this position; but then so many of us LL are put in this position.

Those who can't manage go bust!

I appreciate that you have to start somewhere when trying to change something.

The political will and public demand has to be there though and it just isn't!

The PRS LL is just not a large enough demographic and we are despised by most of society, remember the words greedy and LL seem to be used as some sort of symbiotic relationship as far as the media is concerned.

Face facts nobody will be helping a private LL anytime soon.

Basically we will just have to refuse to take HB cliamants until the eviction law is changed.

Only once govt is facing a mass withdrawal of rental property for HB claimants will govt be forced to address the issues.

I don't see that happening for some time, if ever!
Listen to the latest face the fact programme on R4 where they talk about B & B issues.
Nowhere in the programme was it mentioned that the reason councils cannot house these people is because LL won't let to them for one of the principal reasons that you can't get rid of them easily if they stop paying rent.
The rent amounts etc are red herrings, it is the eviction issue when the tenant stops paying rent that is causing the withdrawal of LL from the HB market.

so sorry to hear your awful story.
yet yours is just the tip of an ever expanding iceberg, I fear, and these stories need to be told, need to be made public.
some people will claim=
' your downfall is down to your inability to control your business '

WELL THEY WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. we cannot control our business
because we are not allowed to !

and yours is a perfect example.

are you still in business ?

Yeh still in business though I call it a zombie business, in that it will NEVER pay off it's losses or loans for as long as I live.
All I'm doing is just slowly recovering what I put into the business..
I will NEVER make profit
All caused by 3 wrongun tenants on whom I did not have RGI!!!.....................doh!!!
Like whole swathes of LL and other businesses who are only still not bankrupt due to low interest rates.
Wait til rates go up, if the govt dares and the whole economy in the UK will go into depression with mass unemployment and homeless tenants.
Your iceberg analogy is a good one.
A substantial portion of the UK economy is a zombie iceberg.
You will see major retailers going bust very shortly and smaller business will give up and owners go on benefit.

but have you voted on the E-petition ?
if not, just do it - and tell everyone you know to do the same.

this is our chance to make it right. one bite at a time.

Our campaign is going viral, nice article from Mortgage Solutions today >>> Our campaihn is going viral. nice article today from mortgage Solutions http://m.mortgagesolutions.co.uk/mortgage-solutions/news/2234320/landlords-call-on-government-to-criminalise-rentdodgers