EPC expired with eviction pending?

EPC expired with eviction pending?

11:58 AM, 29th November 2022, 3 years ago 15

Hi everyone, We have a tenant whose EPC has expired (a D) but he doesn`t speak to us, not for any good reason, he just hates landlords (he`s told us) and hates us contacting him about the simplest thing. Notice (S 21) has been issued which resulted in him stopping paying the low rent.

We feel sure he won`t leave peaceably which may mean us going to court with an expired certificate.

My question is this. Do we send emails trying to arrange an EPC appointment, which a court might deem as us trying to be good landlords, or could he simply use this as ammunition against us by providing him with proof that we are not up to date?

Many thanks

Grahame


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  • Member Since January 2022 - Comments: 97

    4:03 PM, 30th November 2022, About 3 years ago

    I would if I was you try to arrange one, as if the tenant ignores or refuses it make you look like you are ignoring his non payment and trying to be a good LL and keep current, just my thought, looking as good as possible in a Judges eyes can go a long way towards them being helpful rather than all LL are evil we must not help them

  • Member Since July 2013 - Comments: 1266 - Articles: 1

    8:45 AM, 2nd December 2022, About 3 years ago

    https://golocalepc.co.uk/articles/do-i-need-to-renew-epc-during-current-tenancy/#:~:text=A%20landlord%20must%20renew%20their%20EPC%20every%20ten,you%20should%20arrange%20to%20have%20a%20new%20one.

    https://blog.openrent.co.uk/epc-rules-for-landlords/

    Actually you do need to keep a current one in place for an existing tenancy: on 1st April 2020, the new MEES rules expanded to all existing lets. Since then, an EPC rating of an E or above is required to let your property at all.

  • Member Since July 2013 - Comments: 1266 - Articles: 1

    8:57 AM, 2nd December 2022, About 3 years ago

    Reply to the comment left by Puzzler at 02/12/2022 – 08:45
    Although according to some sources you don’t. I have looked at the gov.uk site and I think it means you don’t need a current one for an existing tenancy.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/domestic-private-rented-property-minimum-energy-efficiency-standard-landlord-guidance

  • Member Since November 2022 - Comments: 3

    9:18 AM, 2nd December 2022, About 3 years ago

    Reply to the comment left by Puzzler at 02/12/2022 – 08:45
    The first link sounds like you do but as others have said Gov website doesn’t which is the authorities source.

    The second link says

    “However, on 1st April 2020, the new MEES rules expanded to all existing lets. Since then, an EPC rating of an E or above is required to let your property at all.

    Even if your tenancy is already underway and you have no plans to renew, you need to have an EPC rating of E or above or you could face fines.”

    Which I read as you need an EPC of E or above on a current tenancy agreement. So I assume if it was out of date on 1st Apr 20 then you’d need a new one. The latter paragraph to me just says you need an EPC of E or above.

    Government website says this for compliance which suggests current one not required.

    “A compliance notice may request information on:

    the EPC that was valid for the time when the property was let
    the tenancy agreement used for letting the property
    information on energy efficiency improvements made
    any Energy Advice Report in relation to the property
    any other relevant document”

    I think the wording differs to demonstrate you have had an EPC which shows you are E or above. Maybe some people have had long let’s since before EPCs were required so need to demonstrate compliance.

  • Member Since September 2018 - Comments: 3538 - Articles: 5

    4:35 PM, 22nd June 2023, About 3 years ago

    clarity please.

    I issued the current EPC to the tenant before the AST began – C rating. Since then it has expired. Do I need to get another one done BEFORE I issue a S21

    OR

    as I do not have to commission another EPC until a change of tenancy or property to be sold, can I go ahead and issue the S21 referencing the existing (now date expired) EPC?

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