Concerned Mum trying to help her daughter

by Mark Alexander

13:38 PM, 12th August 2013
About 5 years ago

Concerned Mum trying to help her daughter

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Concerned Mum trying to help her daughter

This Facebook discussion between a letting agent and a concerned Mum is well worth sharing in my opinion. Please feel free to discuss. Concerned Mum trying to help her daughter

Concerned Mum – I wonder if you could give me some advice what documents would a 21 year old student would have to show to rent a house after university and would they need a guarantor to sign for them I would be very grateful if you could let me know this because we don’t plan on signing as guarantors for our daughter and she has no documents to show

Letting Agent – Sorry Kay but your daughter is very unlikely to find a decent home on that basis then. If you can’t trust your daughter to the extent of providing her with a guarantee then why would you expect a landlord to trust your daughter with rights to their property?

Concerned Mum – Thank you very much for the information that you have sent to me. My Daughter also has three hamsters, three mice, two gerbils, a rabbit and a guinea pig so I am guessing a landlord would not except all of those animals?

Letting Agent – Some landlords take a view on pets, I’m one of them. However, I do so based on logic. I like to see proof of current residence then take a look for myself. I also consider a persons ability to put right any damage caused at the end of a tenancy. Therefore, the amount of deposit paid, the finances of the tenant and the credit rating and income/assets of the guarantor are all taken into consideration.

Concerned Mum – Thank you for that but My husband and I just wont be signing for guarantor so that she can stay down in Southampton my husband said a long time ago that we would not sign for her after she has finished university and anyway I have all of her documents at home can you tell me what she would have to show you

Letting Agent – Always proof of identity and proof of residence, e.g. passport and driving licence. Many landlord also request to see six months bank statements and copies of utility bills. Guarantors are regularly expected to provide similar information. It is usual for landlords and letting agents to insist on seeing original documentation. Make sure that any agent you deal with is registered with The Property Ombudsman, you can never be too careful when handing over documents of this nature due to identity fraud.

Concerned Mum – my daughter has not got a passport and she has not got a driving licence and all of her bank statements come to my address the only thing she has got is her ID card from university would that be enough for her to rent a house without the other documents?

Letting Agent – I must refer you back to my initial response “Sorry Kay but your daughter is very unlikely to find a decent home on that basis then. If you can’t trust your daughter to the extent of providing her with a guarantee then why would you expect a landlord to trust your daughter with rights to their property?”

Concerned Mum – would her student ID be enough for her to rent a house after university?

Letting Agent – That’s at the discretion of the landlord. We certainly wouldn’t recommend our landlords to accept that as the only form of ID and proof of residence, especially without a guarantor.

Concerned Mum – so that means that she will have to come back home and live with us again as we will refuse to sign as guarantors for her. You have been very helpful thank you. We wont let her have any of her documents down at Southampton as I said before all of her bank statements come to my addresses and she has no documents to show other than her student id card. I hope that would that be enough for her to rent a house.

Letting Agent – You are very welcome. Whether your daughter moves back home or not is a matter for you and your daughter to decide. I wish you well 🙂

 



Comments

Barbara Thorning

14:37 PM, 12th August 2013
About 5 years ago

Hmmm, it would almost seem that the mother didn't want her daughter to be able to stay in Southampton and was in fact secretly pleased to have collected some 'evidence' to show why she would have to return home.

Roy B

17:32 PM, 12th August 2013
About 5 years ago

Looks like Mum and Dad want to keep her at home - possibly for a long time -

Barbara Thorning

19:05 PM, 12th August 2013
About 5 years ago

If it is the case that clinging Mummy wants to hold on to her Precious Princess, then she will soon be a veritable nightmare and eventually Mummy and Daddy will stump up the deposit themselves so she can take her menagerie elsewhere!

David Sweeney

19:47 PM, 12th August 2013
About 5 years ago

While accepting 'mummy' is a little strange - for whatever reason - am I alone in thinking the agent got out of bed on the wrong side that morning?

No attempt to get 'mummy' to change her mind, no attempt to find a solution, in fact no attempt to create a sale/transaction. Remind me - what was he in work for?

Barbara Thorning

20:07 PM, 12th August 2013
About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Dave Reaney" at "12/08/2013 - 19:47":

Along with my wild speculation, I had actually thought the well of the LA for taking care about the type of tenant he placed in one of his landlord's properties. 'Princess' was only 21, just completed university, may or may not have a job yet but if so certainly not for very long, so her employment [& income] wouldn't be very secure for some time. Not to mention the animals; hamsters, gerbils and mice generally live inside and the cages smell awful if they're not cleaned out regularly. All in all, I would have used him if necessary.

Vanessa Warwick

20:34 PM, 12th August 2013
About 5 years ago

I think the agent handled the conversation very well.

If the parents will not stand as guarantors, then they cannot expect a landlord to rent to a student with no track record.

Like others have said, it seems to me that they want the daughter back home and it sounds like they feel they have "control" over her not to act as her guarantor.

It is sad to see parents using this as a way to control their offspring.

I would not want the daughter as a tenant due to the overpowering nature of the parents, even if they did agree to be guarantors. 🙂

Mary Latham

20:43 PM, 12th August 2013
About 5 years ago

Why would a landlord or letting agent take a chance on a person who is not even trusted by her parents, at the age of 21, to take care of her own documents?

For me the issue is not the guarantee nor even the pets, since they live in cages I would have not problem with them but I would not accept a tenant without proof of ID.

I feel sorry for this young woman and she needs to get copies of her documents and cut the umbilical

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Adam Alexander

8:11 AM, 13th August 2013
About 5 years ago

The conversation didn't end quite at that point. Concerned Mum then asked me whether we have a branch office in Southampton. I explained that we are online letting agents so we don't need offices, that's how we keep our prices so competitive. She then asked me to email all letting agents in Southampton recommending them not to deal with her daughter. Why on earth would I want to do that!?!? At that point I explained that I did not wish to get involved in her family dispute and would not be responding further to her messages. I have deleted the thread and banned her from posting on our Facebook page. I'm always happy to be helpful but there has to be a line. I agree with many of the posts here, Mum and daughter need to cut the umbilical chord.
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Puzzler

14:37 PM, 14th August 2013
About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Adam Alexander" at "13/08/2013 - 08:11":

Daughter needs to deal with this one herself if she so chooses. She could get help through the student union.

This thread would be of more interest if we had heard from the daughter. She is a graduate, she will work it out. From the tone the family is not Western in culture.

A good post though to warn agents and landlords of manipulative relatives.

Adam Alexander

14:43 PM, 14th August 2013
About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Puzzler " at "14/08/2013 - 14:37":

If she was using her real name and real picture on Facebook I'd be very surprised if she was anything other than British, white skin, ginger hair.

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