Tenant removing my bathroom to sell?

Tenant removing my bathroom to sell?

Damaged bathroom with debris and missing fixtures under renovation dispute
12:01 AM, 14th February 2025, 1 year ago 38

Hello, I am going through a S21 and the tenant claims they will not leave until evicted.

I have just been shown several social media posts where they are living elsewhere. Furthermore, they have listed the bathroom in my house for sale.

In the post, they confirm they are no longer living there and have a new home. The police tell me until the bathroom is removed they cannot do anything. Once removed it will be classed as theft and criminal damage.

Is there anything I can do?

They are clearly not living there by their own admission but won’t return the keys.

Thanks


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  • Member Since August 2023 - Comments: 94

    6:41 AM, 17th February 2025, About 1 year ago

    We’ve all made comments to help you across various ways to get this done

    What is not clear is:
    1 do they owe rent?
    2 are they continuing to pay rent?
    3 have they claimed their deposit back in any comms?
    4 are they just winding you up and really still living there?
    5 the social media you mention is that or is it connected their personal blog details?
    6 if you have a brilliant eviction person why are you still asking for advice?
    7 How long since you served the S21?
    8 how was the s21 served and received?
    9 as they said they are not moving out until an eviction was that in response to the S21 or something else?
    10 how many persons are on the ast?
    11 beware of any false address given to you?
    12 Do you have their car registration?
    13 do you have verbal or written communications between all parties?
    14 re the advert for your bathroom items does the contact details match your info for contacting them or are they using new or a friends details?
    15 Have you already applied to the courts?
    16 there are specific reasons for using a section 8 including a min of 2 months owed rent
    17 even if you are awarded a s8 claim the tenant will still be given time to leave, 2-6 weeks. Push for 2
    18 if they do not leave you then have to go through the bailiff route- more tenant relief.
    19 the only satusfaction you will get is that the tenants will have ccjs which will significantly impact on their lives, finances and future rentals.
    20 if you want to get any monies owed you will need to get another legal court order against their income, however derived.
    21 your eviction specialist would have also advised you about a court application for quicker recovery of your property.
    22 you cannot just change the locks. Do not do this. You have to have reasons which have been mentioned In previous comments. There are ways.
    23 beware they are not trying to entrap you through poor decisions due to your emotions rather than the system which is stacked against LL.
    25 I am not in favour if this but it may be cheaper and without the satisfaction of a CCJ against the tenants. Offer them a sweetener to formally leave BUT only if your expert eviction person says you do not have enough evidence of the tenants giving up the property.
    26 have you actually been in the property for any of the suggested reasons given in comments above?
    27 re 26 are their any of their personal possessions in the property as this brings new considerations.
    28 if there are non, photo and video everything including all damage,
    29 if you know of their new address and they are responding to your communications via that address, make sure you keep copies of everything.

    This has been a long reply, you need to get further help from the RNLA as they have processes and a help line to move you successfully forward and ensure your court applications are correct.

  • Member Since August 2024 - Comments: 21

    10:47 AM, 17th February 2025, About 1 year ago

    Reply to the comment left by Disgrunteld Landlady at 17/02/2025 – 05:28
    Been advised to do S8 as it gives me another path for eviction as rent is owed.
    Also, discretionary grounds can include the breach to the tenancy.

  • Member Since August 2024 - Comments: 21

    10:57 AM, 17th February 2025, About 1 year ago

    Reply to the comment left by Southern Boyuk at 17/02/2025 – 06:41
    Thank you for all the info.

    Yes owe rent.
    Not living there but keep popping back for mail/belongings.

    S21 served and expired so now on the possession stage. Served to rental address as at this point, didn’t know they had moved.

    Eviction adviser said can trace new address so s8 will go there.

    I’m asking for advice as it
    Helps me. I never imagined I’d be in such a situation so it brings comfort to talk
    About it. Like you say, don’t take action based on emotions so this forum gives me a much needed outlet.

    I’ve not been in the property as been advised not to unless an emergency.

    I have detailed records off all communications.

    They aren’t leaving to be difficult. They believe I have wronged them by deciding to sell the house.

    I also have an ongoing harassment case against tenant.

    I think I’ve replied to everything. Apologies if not.

  • Member Since August 2023 - Comments: 94

    12:04 PM, 17th February 2025, About 1 year ago

    Reply to the comment left by Carlacarla at 17/02/2025 – 10:57
    Yes do not go in unless it’s an emergency, I have identified in previous emails to you the type of emergencies that may exist!

    Also you can do the S8 Online but I caution you if you do not do it right you just set the whole system back to day one. Hence unless you have a specialist in S8 I recommend you go to the RNLA. They have predetermined forms and help which you can just download.

    Also condition yourself to prepare for the worst, anything better than that will not take your emotions down further.

    Your grounds for S8 will be 1. old rent more than two months, 2 you’re selling the house. Caution if you are not selling the house and just saying that it’s a risky strategy as you can be fined. It’s best to have evidence that you have asked an agent to sell a property for you, but I’m waiting for the tenants to vacate.

    If you’re saying they’re going back to the house collecting mail, then it’s safe to say they have received all the documentation. You may wish to find the New Address they are using with the sting previously mentioned for the bathroom and following them back to their New Address.

    If you have details in the original contract of their employer when you go for section 8, you will separately have to go for costs which means you will be wanting an award against their employer or against their benefits.

  • Member Since August 2024 - Comments: 21

    12:16 PM, 17th February 2025, About 1 year ago

    Reply to the comment left by Southern Boyuk at 17/02/2025 – 12:04
    Thank you for taking time to reply.

    I have a plan and I know I must follow that.
    It’s the emotional side of waiting that stings.

  • Member Since September 2023 - Comments: 28

    12:26 PM, 17th February 2025, About 1 year ago

    Your contract stipulates the notice you must give for inspection…usually 24 hours. Give it. And get in to your property and see what is going in. Within the law and commonsense. Doesn’t need to be an emergency. It’s in your contract…

  • Member Since July 2013 - Comments: 754

    1:19 PM, 19th February 2025, About 1 year ago

    Surely someone publicly planning to remove and sell your bathroom without your consent, ruining your property in the process, counts as an emergency?

  • Member Since December 2023 - Comments: 10

    4:56 PM, 19th February 2025, About 1 year ago

    Wait much longer and the bathroom will be sold and then try getting your money back so stop pussy footing about and go in with no notice under the pretence of emergency.
    Plenty of situations that fall into that category, many listed here in this thread.

    Neighbours report smell of gas
    Neighbours report smell of weed
    Neighbours report screams from the flat
    Neighbours report lock damaged, don’t forget to take a hammer to the lock once you’ve changed it and keep the evidence, Take loads of photos inside the flat.

    You don’t have to take names and addresses of these concerned and worried neighbours.
    Once inside check for signs of occupancy, what’s in the fridge. Make a note of the meter readings and take photos.
    As the lock was damaged then it will require changing then notify the tenant of your visit and suggest they pop round to a local pub carpark in the evening to collect a key, take a friend as a witness.

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