Landlords victory

by Larry Sweeney

11:54 AM, 5th May 2019
About 4 months ago

Landlords victory

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Landlords victory

After a long dialogue representatives of Sefton council finally met the landlords Alliance. First let me state that the Sefton team were Welcoming, helpful and constructive. It was not a case of us fighting zealots on the contrary, the Council team were proactive and motivated to resolving the problem. Full credit to them. We must remember that while we all obviously agree that these rotten licensing schemes are nothing more than revenue raising scams, it is not the council staff that are to blame, rather the useless councillors, just as we have a Parliament full of 650 clowns .

The discussion was about the fact that Sefton were demanding addresses of landlords properties licensed outside the borough.Without re-hashing the legal points, suffice to say Sefton fully accepted our view. The council will now amend their application and all excess data will be expunged.

So to the bigger picture:

Landlords nationwide can now refuse to engage with or proceed with any licensing application where the council demand data which is excessive.(data limitation).

We now move on to Section 21.

We are in discussions at the highest level and rest assured we will not cave in. Our position is crystal clear. We completely oppose any dilution or removal of Section 21. We hope our colleagues in other organisations will join us in absolutely opposing the removal of property owners rights.

Prior to any meeting, let us again re state our position. No removal of S21 without all our demands re S8 or similar legislation being implemented immediately. Anything less is an erosion of property owners rights and the Alliance will not support such legislation.

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We have changed licensing procedures and now will halt all schemes nationwide which are not compliant. We have stated our case nationwide on BBC, we have had national coverage exposing Shelter and we are far from finished with Shelter.

We now go in to discussions in London at top level to protect Property owners rights and we will not get in to bed with anybody. Our position is clear. No abolition of S21 without pro rata strengthening of landlords property rights elsewhere. If this means the Alliance walks out of talks in London, so be it.

We don’t care. Our only duty is to our members and we will do what ever it takes to bring all landlord organisations along with us. This is really simple.

Enough of being bullied, enough telling us who we should rent to, enough threatening us with criminal prosecutions for trivial breaches of stupid petty legislation.

Here is the deal. Our members hard working tax compliant landlords say NO.

It is our properties. No more bullying, no more accepting DSS tenants. That show is over. Councils house your benefit tenants. The Alliance urges members not to accept benefit tenants under any circumstances unless their rent is fully underwritten by Shelter.

This wont happen as Shelter the housing charity which houses nobody has refused to step up to the plate and bond benefit tenants.


Luke P

0:51 AM, 15th May 2019
About 3 months ago

Reply to the comment left by angalfaria at 14/05/2019 - 15:32
Your comment doesn’t make much sense. What are you asking?

Chris Daniel

9:13 AM, 15th May 2019
About 3 months ago

Reply to the comment left by angalfaria at 14/05/2019 - 15:32I thought it was me being a bit slow or something, but thanks for confirming my sanity Luke, because I don't understand the point angalfaria is trying to make either ?


7:18 AM, 16th May 2019
About 3 months ago

The National Landlords Alliance LTD work as a live jacket of landlords.
Have some other steps can take The National Landlords Alliance LTD?


7:23 AM, 16th May 2019
About 3 months ago

I just asked about the London property owner right laws. Thanks for knowing about your position.


7:24 AM, 16th May 2019
About 3 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Chris Daniel at 15/05/2019 - 09:13
Thanks a lot Chris Daniel.

Larry Sweeney

8:08 AM, 16th May 2019
About 3 months ago

Please get someone to word your comment for you so that we can respond. Its impossible to understand the point you try to make.

Mick Roberts

12:24 PM, 16th May 2019
About 3 months ago

Great job Larry getting them to finally listen.
Why they don't listen from day one baffles me.


12:17 PM, 18th May 2019
About 3 months ago

Great job Larry, The Alliance has proved its metal.

Any landlord reading these posts needs to get onboard with the Alliance now. Now is the time to row back injustice and set the record straight for all of us. Join up!


10:21 AM, 23rd May 2019
About 3 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Larry Sweeney at 11/05/2019 - 10:50
It is a good idea. If the landlord refuses to sign up to licensing, then the council must accept the landlord's talk and can include the NLA and RLA in the application form.

Annie Landlord

11:02 AM, 23rd May 2019
About 3 months ago

Comment from Sefton Council:
"Thank you for your email. In response, I can confirm that, the Local Authority has a duty under Statutory Instrument 2006 No. 373 “The Licensing and Management of Houses in Multiple Occupation and Other Houses (Miscellaneous Provisions) (England) Regulation 2006 to obtain 'details' of other licensed property either within or outside of its area.
Sefton Council's interpretation of the Regulations is that we do need to ask Landlords to supply 'details' relating to other licensed properties outside of the Borough to be compliant with the Regulations; but in the absence of a definition as to what constitutes 'details' we have established that we only require the Borough in which the other licensed properties are located and the number of licensable properties. It should be noted that this is Sefton Council's decision and not a 'ruling'.
I hope this clarifies our position on this matter.
Housing Standards Team
Sefton Council"

So Sefton will still require some data - the number and location of out of borough HMOs it seems

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