Tenant not communicating, risk in rent arrears?
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Help – tenant’s friends moving in?
10:58 AM, 12th April 2023, 3 years ago
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Hello, I’ve just heard from our managing agent that our tenants are planning to have a friend of theirs, plus teenage son, move into our flat, because they (the friends) can’t find anywhere affordable in London and there is space for them (there will be 4 people in a 2-bed flat).
I am concerned about having someone living there who is not on the AST.
Our agent says there is nothing we can do other than hope they all move out at the end of the tenancy.
The tenants have indicated that they are likely to go (tenancy ends in 6 months’ time) but my concern is that the friends might not.
Is there anything we can do, other than cross our fingers and hope for the best?
I dread having anything to do with courts etc.
Thank you,
Daniela
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Member Since October 2022 - Comments: 16
9:51 AM, 17th April 2023, About 3 years ago
Reply to the comment left by David at 16/04/2023 – 11:26
The AST allows them to have lodgers with landlord’s consent. Anyone know anything about having a lodger? Would a lodger moving in create an HMO?
Member Since April 2021 - Comments: 189
10:13 AM, 17th April 2023, About 3 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Judith Wordsworth at 15/04/2023 – 13:05
Interesting, I was thinking more of tenants with two children of opposite sex sharing a room. No problem while they are small but what happens when they get older? Owner-occupiers can do as they please but do tenants have to be evicted?
Member Since October 2022 - Comments: 16
11:00 AM, 17th April 2023, About 3 years ago
Am coming to conclusion that there are only 2 options:
1. refuse consent and deal with whatever happens after
2. give consent for POs and put up with HMO creation
If we do1 and they let their friend move in anyway, we’ll still have to deal with 2.
Member Since October 2022 - Comments: 16
11:02 AM, 17th April 2023, About 3 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Dana at 17/04/2023 – 09:51
Yes it would create a HMO. Didn’t mean to post this – hit the wrong key!! Pls ignore.
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2:21 PM, 18th April 2023, About 3 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Dana at 17/04/2023 – 11:00
I think you should absolutely rule out your option 2. Whether you make their friends tenants, lodgers or POs, it would still be an HMO.
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6:42 PM, 18th April 2023, About 3 years ago
Reply to the comment left by David at 18/04/2023 – 14:21Heard from the Council and it is not necessary to report the HMO because it does not need licensing. But need to follow the regs. For us I think it only means additional PAT testing and verifying all smoke/heat/CO alarms are in place and working – which they should be. The Fire Brigade only inspects licensed HMOs. So should be covered wrt HMO regardless.