Advice on CCJ after section 21 and section 8?

Advice on CCJ after section 21 and section 8?

9:55 AM, 7th February 2023, About A year ago 22

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Hi everyone, I am a 1.5-year property owner who let the property out and ended in this sad situation. I wonder if any of you had experience with the CCJ or MCOL?

I let out my property on June 2021 for 1 year with a guarantor, then renewed it for a new one for a break clause of 6 months with 2 months’ notice because it was on the market for sale. Tenants understood and agreed to that.

Luckily a buyer agreed with the purchase of the property with the tenant vacant in Aug 2022, notice was given to the tenants to move out by mid Oct 2022 and it was in the process of the sale.

By October 2022, tenants did not leave and a 2 months notice of S21 was given (the last day of that was in December 2022 ).

They decided to stay after the end of the S21 date and to stop paying the rent in Jan 2023, and the buyer has pulled out of the deal, so all the time and money were wasted, but I don’t blame the buyer, I would do the same if I was them.

So, an S8 letter was sent from my eviction company, and the last day of payment was on the 3rd of Feb. Now I am instructing my solicitors/eviction company regarding the process.

Therefore, assuming I will win both cases, after the court hearing for both of my procession and arrears, and the possibility of County Court bailiffs issuing a warrant for possession for eviction. I will need the CCJ / MCOL.

1) Should the guarantor on the 1st year TC be liable for the second AST? I don’t see his name on the second one. I guess not right?

2)What’s the difference between CCJ & MCOL?

3) What kind of money am I entitled to claim from the tenants? I guess the deposit would not be enough since he owes me at least 2 months’ rent already.

4) Besides the rent arrears, am I entitled to claim the S21 and S8 solicitors’ fees?

5) How about the money I lose from the sale and the property sale solicitor’s fees?

6) How to check if he has any money or assets for me to make a claim?

Thank you so much!

Can tell me something about this, please? My solicitor is so busy that it’s hard to ask them anything, and I would like the hear your thoughts on this matter so I can compare things later on.

I wish there is a bad tenant list for the LL, so everyone can watch out.

Best regards,

James


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SteveFowkes

9:54 AM, 11th February 2023, About A year ago

Reply to the comment left by TheBiggerPicture at 07/02/2023 - 13:04
When the tenancy becomes periodic its still an AST

Its the legal standard

Ian Narbeth

11:08 AM, 27th February 2023, About A year ago

I have been away on holiday, hence the delay in replying.
The words: "The guarantee and indemnity created by this Guarantee will continue notwithstanding any renewal, extension, or continuation of the Tenancy Agreement, whether fixed term, periodic or statutory periodic." do not, in my opinion, work to create a guarantee of a new tenancy agreement.
The new tenancy is not the same agreement as was guaranteed. A guarantee can be drafted so that it applies when the tenancy becomes periodic but that is not the case here where the first tenancy ended.
The words purport to apply indefinitely: "any renewal etc." and so in theory the guarantee would endure however many times the tenancy was renewed and however much the rent was varied. The courts are unlikely to agree that this is what the words mean as the guarantor might be liable for decades.
Guarantees are strictly construed against the beneficiary and the court might well interpret the words I have quoted as meaning: "The guarantee and indemnity applying to the initial tenancy still apply notwithstanding renewal, but they only apply to the obligations in the initial tenancy." In other words the guarantor is not discharged from liability under the initial tenancy.

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