Where should I carry my mortgage debt?

Where should I carry my mortgage debt?

0:07 AM, 25th August 2023, About 8 months ago 5

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Hello, I’m reaching the end of my large family home mortgage and the end of 2 BTL company ones. In the past I’d always leveraged the large personal interest only one as the interest is so low and only took up company ones as I expanded. (They are all are interest only).

Given the environment, I will pause investing in property and look to use a large savings pot to either pay off the 2 BTL ones or my personal one.

I asked my accountant to help me decide and maybe come up with some outcome options but both his and my gut feel is to pay off the company ones as the remortgage fees of about 6% (£27K) seam astronomical on 2 x £225K mortgages.

I appreciate more corporation tax will be due on this additional profit but not that much.

I’m sure others are facing similar situations and would appreciate your thoughts.

Thank you,

Tim


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JaSam

9:38 AM, 25th August 2023, About 8 months ago

I believe you are planning to use your personal savings to be mortgage free on the BTL’s owned by your company. The main benefit operating in a company is mortgage interest as an allowable expense, you are essentially throwing that benefit away by being mortgage free and you have more of your personal money tied up in the company. Without knowing the ins and outs of your personal situation and your company it’s going to be impossible for someone to advise what is best for you other than yourself and accountant/tax planner.

I would personally take a different approach that my personal situation and company are independent (which they are) despite being in charge of both. My philosophy is to get to an infinite return of investment from each BTL and mortgage free on my personal property. As such I would remortgage and pull out as much equity as possible (if any) out of the BTL’s, you can add the fees to the loan, yes this will increase the interest only payments but your rent should more than cover that (and if it doesn't then arguably that is a poor performing property, so maybe time to sell). You extract the money from your company via DLA and once that is fully paid off the you have an infinite ROI. Basically you have zero of your personal money invested in your company yet able to make a net profit. You can use this money to pay off your personal home or re-invest which ever works best for you.

JB

12:11 PM, 25th August 2023, About 8 months ago

Some suggestions for you to investigate:
You could pay off your B2L's and charge 10% (or more) interest to your company for unsecured loans.
You could increase your pension payments to reduce your corporation tax.
Dont let hi-tax Hunt get his 25%

Tim Jones

8:04 AM, 26th August 2023, About 8 months ago

Reply to the comment left by JaSam at 25/08/2023 - 09:38
Thanks for sharing your thoughts whilst i agree with you it’s the difference in the cost of the residential mortgage to the residential one (mainly the fees - £27k ) that is steering the decision

At the end off the day we can see them as separate entities but spending £27 k in fees doesn’t make sense for my business when I can avoid it

Tim Jones

8:11 AM, 26th August 2023, About 8 months ago

Reply to the comment left by JB at 25/08/2023 - 12:11
Charge my company for an unsecured loan - sounds like a great idea - the only issue is I would need to pay personal tax on the revenue this generates- I’ll do the maths

Company pay in to pension if company’s profits are too high - yes I’ll look in to this also

A few years ago I took up an offer I saw on this forum with rebuilding society and did a ‘ innovative directors Isa ‘ it was a nice way to charge interest within this wrapper - but I 6 mths ago R/S said the scheme is closed

JaSam

8:11 AM, 28th August 2023, About 8 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Tim Jones at 26/08/2023 - 08:04
My point is that you are not paying the £27k upfront but added to the loans as an allowable expense. I get the £27k needs to be paid from somewhere but why use your personal lump sum just stretch it out into your ROI and less complicated.

They shut the scheme down because it was basically tax evasion via an ISA wrapper.

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