New EPC metric system will drive landlords to install heat pumps

How does installing solar to a property with gas really help with bills? During the summer hardly any electricity is used just “exported”, which if forced i would take the SEG payments not the tenant as its my investment. During the winter hardly any generation and property is heated by gas. So you want to turn my retails into a solar farm? Want to get bills down sort out the energy sector first!

Please God, don’t let Milivolt become PM or else this unevidenced Net Zero nonsense will really start in earnest.

Heat pumps DO NOT work unless in very well insulated modern homes.

Only the UK, Germany and Australia are still bought into the man made climate change stuff and busily destroying their industries and raising energy costs on households. Most other countries have woken up to the insanity and are rowing back.

The headline is only partially correct, the new EPC metric system will drive landlords to SELL.
As I am doing as fast as I can.

I’m intrigued and would welcome comments and/or assistance from members

I recently looked at the sale particulars for a family member’s property. They are without a doubt eco warriors and are going to save the planet single handed! (Thank you!) They are ‘Green’ through and through.

They have installed solar panels, a heat pump, 400mm of loft insulation and they have double glazing and cavity insulation – their EPC is a D.

They have clearly made huge financial commitments to do this and felt their decisions were right at the time. But, their property would not come up to the necessary grade for it to be a rental option and I am uncertain what else can be done should someone wish to invest in their house to let it out

I don’t know the statistics but the Government appear to be targeting the rental sector so tenants get a fair deal on their utility bills, whereas I am certain that the majority of privately owned properties throughout the UK are the ones ‘doing the damage’ and chipping away at the ozone layer (but in turn paying higher utility bills to keep the utility companies making their huge profits)

My dear Aunt has done what she can and is still unable to stop the ice from melting – I genuinely feel that the only way to make a difference is to understand how an Energy Performance Assessor actually produces a report so if anyone can reveal that, it would be very beneficial.

To date my only experience is that having LED lightbulbs makes more difference than anything else.

Only last week the BBC2 political question programme at 12pm daily had Dale Vince on plus others debating heating and energy.

The issue is with how we structure our energy delivery. It is designed to not allow green energy to feed into lowering electric prices. It is complex, but this is the key issue.

Dale was saying Heat pumps cost MORE to run than gas boilers. The install charges are enormous. so most houses after install have bills for heating and water 25% more than with the gas system.

The other component they were talking about was solar and battery uptake. The government is going to roll out this programme, but the problem is the linkage between the H Pumps. I think in the debate you could see solar makes sense, but HP’s don’t. Plus you need to address how energy is priced in the whole country and the structure behind it.

I am pro electric vehicles as they are much better machines to drive than petrol car. I am also pro solar, but it has to be used with battery tech. I can see the future ls going to use much more solar and battery tech. It is amazing what is coming down the line if you look. 600miles vehicle ranges are here, China has £15k electric cars – cheap as chips.

However, using gas to heat our homes is a much cheaper way than using electric. We need a mix. Long live gas.

And finally the climate debate is a SCAM !! Cooked up by billionaires in order to make more money from the system. Everyone has been bought by it, but we are now realising the cost of destroying our industry is not worth it and people are waking up.

Just a Quick Look at CO2 and you will realise this is a green gas and helps vegetation grow. The planet naturally cools and warms over thousands of years, we are just in the start of an upturn in warming, coming out of a cooler phase which started to change in the 1970’s. The north of England was much hotter than today in Roman times. They were growing vines for wine up here then. Global warming is real, its just the human element causing it which is fake.

Please listen to this energy consultant show how insane our energy policy is. she covers nuclear as well. It’s 25mins long and came out yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLJZ-NcdqUM

Do electric heat pumps not use fossil fuels then?

When these heat pumps fail to provide sufficient warmth, do the additional electric heaters not use fossil fuels?

I’m glad I’ve got a log burner.

I won’t be forced to do anything by the government. My tenants will be homeless long before I install a heat pump in my rental properties.

However efficient, or green, they are to run, they need to run continuously.
Some of my tenants only run their (gas) central heating for 2-4 hours a day, it only takes about 1/2 an hour to warm a flat, then it kicks on and off till they head to bed. They don’t even use the timers, partly because they’re out at work most of the day, partly because they’re on a low income, partly lifestyle choice.
They only pay a few pounds a week on utilities.
In Summer, some of them pay next to nothing (not even standing charge).
With ASHP, they will never get their homes to any decent temperature.
Running it continuously will cost them far more than they can afford. It simply won’t get used. They will resort to fan heaters, because they’re cheaper to run!
How is that good for tenants and a better home standard?

Not so long ago we were being told that keeping a tank of water hot 24hrs was a huge waste of energy and that combi boilers would save the planet and the bills. Now it is apparently fine keeping a big tank hot 24-7

A tenat of mine qualified for ECO4 upgrades to the all electric property. The company came round and recommended a heat pump, to which I asked but there aren’t any radiators in the property its all electric.

Their solution was to involve installing water radiators in each room and basically wrecking the property in doding so.

Needless to say I refused it

You cannot install a heat pump in an all electric heating property without massive disruption and cost